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Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Addiko Bank Results Q3 2025 Conference Call. My name is Youssef, the Chorus Call operator. [Operator Instructions] This conference is being recorded. The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. At this time, it's my pleasure to hand over to Herbert Juranek, CEO. Please go ahead.
Herbert Juranek: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I would like to welcome you to the presentation of the results of the third quarter 2025 of Addiko Bank AG on behalf of my colleagues, Sara, Ganesh, Edgar and Tadej. Let me show you today's agenda. In the beginning, I will present to you the key highlights of our results. Ganesh will continue with our achievements on the business side. After that, Edgar will give you more details on our financial performance. And Tadej will inform you about the developments in the risk area. Finally, I will do a quick wrap-up before we go on to Q&A. So let's start with a quite positive note. I'm happy to inform you that in Q3, we achieved a record operating performance with an operating result of EUR 31.2 million quarter-to-date due to a strong business performance of our team and due to good cost management. This represents the highest quarterly operating results so far, achieved entirely under the new business model. On a year-to-date basis, the operating result ended up at EUR 82.9 million despite the significantly lower interest rate environment and based on our measures to manage the inflation-driven updrift of our administrative costs. The strong business performance is based on a 17% growth rate in new consumer lending business and on a 9% growth rate in new SME lending business. However, the positive effects from new business were, to a certain extent, neutralized by lower income from variable back book and national bank deposits as well as by repayments of loans driven by aggressive competitor attacks. Nevertheless, we were able to grow our net commission income by 7.8% year-on-year or even at 12.5% if you compare the third quarter with the third quarter last year. Moreover, we managed to expand our active customer base by 5% year-on-year. Altogether, we could keep our net banking income stable, compensating the mentioned negative effects. Let's briefly comment on our risk performance. We were quite successful in reducing our NPE volume further to EUR 140 million at the end of Q3 compared with EUR 145 million at the end of 2024. Our NPE ratio is kept stable at 2.9%, while our coverage ratio continued to improve to 82.2% from 80.8% at the end of June. Our cost of risk on net loans ended up at 0.7% or EUR 25.5 million compared to EUR 25 million last year. Tadej will give you more details on the risk development later. So in summary, we achieved a net profit of EUR 11.3 million in Q3, which results in a year-to-date profit of EUR 35.3 million at the end of the third quarter 2025. Consequently, the return on average tangible equity stands at 5.6% and the earnings per share at EUR 1.83. The funding situation remained quite solid with EUR 5.2 billion deposits and a loan-to-deposit ratio of 69%. Our liquidity coverage ratio is currently very comfortable, above 380% at group level. And finally, our capital position continues to be very strong with a 21.3% total capital ratio, all in CET1, based on Basel IV regulations. Now what else is worthwhile to mention? As presented in our last earnings call, we have laid the operational foundation for our market expansion into Romania in the first half of 2025 and started our fully automated consumer lending business based on a very diligent and prudent risk approach. On that basis, we have started at the end of August with a 360-degree marketing campaign to raise awareness, to build the brand, to position our product and to start generating business. The campaign included TV and out-of-home advertising as well as digital integrated marketing campaigns and was able to create noise and positive reactions in the market. Despite significant parallel marketing efforts by incumbent banks, we view this initiative as a strong starting point for building our brand in a new market and is a solid foundation for continued marketing activities to drive sustained traction. Ganesh will provide further details in his section of the presentation. Now let's come to a different topic. In 2024, Addiko decided to get a listing on the Frankfurt Xetra platform to improve the trading liquidity and to increase the attractivity to a wider range of potential investors. Now after 1.5 years, based on the very limited trading volume in Frankfurt and due to the given changes in the shareholding structure, we concluded to discontinue the Xetra listing in Frankfurt as of 1st of January 2026, as the defined targets were not met. Concerning our ESG program, I would like to inform you that all initiatives are on track and progressing as planned. You will find more information in the appendix of the presentation. Next page, please. Unfortunately, I have to inform you about several unpleasant changes driven by local governments and local regulators with significant impacts to our business revenues. I will explain them country by country. In Croatia, we are confronted with a series of measures with severe impact on our earning capacity. As of 1st of July this year, the Croatian National Bank introduced preventive macro potential measures restricting consumer lending criteria. Amongst other regulations, a debt-to-income ratio of 40% for nonhousing loans was introduced. The effect of this new rule was already visible with an approximately 30% reduction of our new consumer -- Croatian consumer business generation in the third quarter vis-a-vis last year. Now the experience with our respective vintages does not provide the evidence that such a measure was needed. Moreover, we anticipate detrimental consequences for the concerned customers as those affected may be excluded with their loan demand from the banking system and cover it with unregulated providers. Tadej will give you more background later on. Furthermore, the Finance Ministry of Croatia supported a new regulation to restrict and cut banking fees as of 1st of January 2026. This means that we have to offer free account packages, which shall include opening, maintaining and closing the account, Internet and mobile banking, depositing money, issuing and using debit cards, incoming euro transactions and executing payments with debit cards. Additionally, we have to provide a fee-free channel for cash withdrawals for all customers, while for pensioners and vulnerable client groups, both ATM and branch must be free of charge. On top of that, from the 1st of January 2027, 2 cash withdrawals on ATMs of other banks must be offered for free. All of that eats directly into our core business revenues. And one can ask the question, why do banks have to provide such core services for free? In Serbia, starting with the 15th of September, the National Bank of Serbia asked all banks to reduce the interest rate by 300 basis points to maximum 7.5% for citizens with an income of up to RSD 100,000 per month. This reflects almost the average salary in Serbia. In addition, no loan processing or account maintenance fees shall be charged. Unfortunately, this will affect the vast majority of our customers. In the Republika Srpska, the banking agency decided to restrict specific banking fees. As of 9th June 2025, fees for credit party account maintenance, ATM account balance checks and for sending warning letters of delayed payments are not allowed anymore. And finally, in Montenegro, effective 1st of November 2025, a new regulation will introduce a debt-to-income cap of 50%. This will be accompanied by a restriction on maximum interest rates, limiting them to no more than 100% above the average consumer rate in the market, including non-payroll loans and credit cards. Now to summarize. Altogether, the measures depicted on this page would lead to an unmitigated potential impact of just above EUR 10 million on our revenue base. Nevertheless, we are actively working on solutions to mitigate these effects and to create new offers to our customers to enable new growth opportunities. Now with that, I would like to hand over to Ganesh to give you more insights on how we are reacting in this respect and first of all, to inform you on our business development.
GaneshKumar Krishnamoorthi: Thank you, Herbert. Good afternoon, everyone. Moving to Page 6, I'm pleased to report strong third quarter performance in our Consumer segment, delivering 17% year-over-year growth in new business with a premium yield of 7.2%. This was achieved despite a persistently low interest rate environment and supported 9% year-over-year growth in the loan book. On the SME side, the new business origination grew 9% year-over-year with a solid yield of 5.1%. However, we continue to face a challenging market with competitors sharply lowering prices to stimulate demand. This has prompted many existing clients to repay loans early, particularly those with higher fixed rates originated last year. As a result, the SME loan book declined 2% year-over-year, mainly due to reductions in large tickets, medium segment loans. I will share more updates on SME turnaround plan on the next page. Overall, our focused loan book grew 5% year-over-year, and this focused book now accounts for 91% of our total loan portfolio, underscoring our strategy to prioritize high return and scalable lending. Please turn to Page 7 for a detailed outlook. Let's take a closer look at our Consumer segment. Year-to-date, we have delivered double-digit growth while maintaining premium pricing, driven by several key factors: number one, strong market demand across our core geographies. Number two, the launch of fully digital end-to-end lending with zero human interventions in 4 of our core markets clearly differentiates us from the competitors. Number three, our point-of-sale lending proposition continues to perform well, achieving 17% year-over-year growth. Number four, we have identified a sweet spot between growth and pricing, enabling us proactively to retain customers and the loan book through disciplined repricing actions. Number five, additionally, we are redesigning our mobile app, introducing new card features with Google Pay and Apple Pay integrations, which has contributed to an 8.5% year-over-year increase in net commission income. As Herbert mentioned, our business model has been affected by new regulatory restrictions. We are already implementing mitigation measures, including downselling, introducing core debt structures and focusing on high-quality customer segments with larger ticket size. Furthermore, we are developing a new specialist program that focuses on non-blending products, aiming at fee-based income growth, and we will share more details once the program is launched. We are confident that these initiatives will not only offset regulatory headwinds, but also strengthen the foundation for sustainable quality growth going forward. Over to SMEs. Our core business model remains unchanged, to be the fastest provider for unsecured low-ticket loans to underserved micro and small enterprises through our digital agents platform. As mentioned earlier, we are facing market challenges due to aggressive pricing, which has led to some loan book contraction. However, we are now seeing a recovery in the market demand. And to reignite growth, we have taken several strategic actions. Number one, our turnaround plan in Serbia, supported by new leadership team, is delivering 20% year-over-year growth in new business. In fact, all countries are recording double-digit growth, except for Slovenia. Number two, we are placing strong emphasis on retaining quality clients and the loan book through better pricing, loan prolongations and superior service delivery. Number three, we also have broadened our product range while maintaining our focus on unsecured loans, we are also expanding to secured investment loans with slightly higher ticket sizes, targeting both existing and new customers. And this has resulted in a 69% year-over-year increase in investment loan volumes. Finally, we have launched a new digital SME tool to process high-ticket loans with a greater speed and simplicity, providing a clear competitive advantage. Overall, we believe these initiatives positions us well to return to a sustainable growth in the SME segment going forward. Lastly, let me touch on our progress with AI adoptions. We are investing in AI technologies to enhance efficiency and customer experience across the organization. Two AI-driven applications are already live, one supporting employees with HR-related inquiries and the other assisting our call center by analyzing customer inquiries, feedback and creating responses. Additionally, we are exploring AI use cases in IT, risk and marketing, further strengthening our operational excellence and data-driven decision-making. To summarize, 2025 is a transitional year, focusing on refining our SME business model and launching new USPs that enhances speed, convenience and value across consumer and SME segments. These investments are essential, not only to drive future growth, but also to strengthen our specialization, stay ahead of the competition, compensate regulatory restrictions and justify high-margin premiums in a low interest rate environment. We are building the foundation for stronger, faster and more profitable growth in the years ahead. Please let me hand over to Edgar.
Edgar Flaggl: Thank you, Ganesh, and good afternoon, everybody. Let's turn to Page 9 for an overview of our performance in the first 9 months of 2025. Despite a challenging interest rate environment and cost pressures, we delivered stable results, supported by resilient consumer lending, strong fee income and a robust capital position. Now let's take this one by one. Our net interest income came in at EUR 177.8 million, a slight year-on-year decrease of 2.2%. This marks a modest recovery compared to the 2.4% year-over-year decline, as reported in the first half this year. The decline was mainly due to the lower interest rate environment, which impacted income from our variable back book, so roughly 14% of our book, [ 1-4 ], and on National Bank deposits. As a reminder, the ECB implemented 8 rate cuts since June 2024, totaling a reduction of 2 percentage points, a faster pace than we initially anticipated. This also caused pressure on interest rates we can charge on new loans. Importantly, our Consumer segment performed quite strong with interest income up 7.3%, driven by 9% growth in the consumer portfolio. Overall, the focus portfolio grew 5% year-on-year, slightly ahead of the previous quarter. On the fee side, we delivered solid growth. Net fee and commission income rose 7.8% to EUR 57.8 million, driven by bancassurance, accounts and packages as well as card business, which altogether grew 11.6% year-on-year, with bancassurance as a key contributor. Now looking ahead, new regulations, respectively, law in Croatia, limiting fees on banking products will have an impact on fee generation going forward. Coming back to the end of the third quarter, as a result, net banking income remained stable at EUR 235.6 million despite the challenging environment. Our general administrative expenses in short OpEx increased slightly to EUR 144.5 million, up just 1% year-on-year, and that's mainly due to wage adjustments and operational updates as well as increases. When excluding the 3 million in extraordinary advisory costs related to takeover of [ what we had ] last year, operational costs were only up 3.2% year-over-year. Our cost-income ratio came in at 61.4%, which is a tad higher than last year. The operating result landed at EUR 82.9 million year-to-date, down only 0.8% year-on-year, supported by an exceptionally strong operational third quarter, as Herbert pointed out already. The other result, which includes costs for legal claims as well as for operational banking risks, remained manageable. We have allocated some additional provisions for new legal claims in Slovenia and made a small top-up in Croatia, also to reflect further increased lawyer costs. The main point in Slovenia remains what the higher courts will rule upon regarding the applicable status of limitation and if that will be in line with the dominant legal opinions. As usual, during the fourth quarter, a further deep dive will be conducted in the context of the year-end audit. So there is a possibility for some additions here. When it comes to risk costs, our expected credit loss expenses were EUR 25.5 million, which translates to cost of risk of 0.7% on net loans year-to-date. Tadej will provide more insights in just about a moment. All in all, we delivered a net profit after tax of EUR 35.3 million for the first 9 months. As of today, we do expect the fourth quarter contribution to be less pronounced. So while operating in a challenging rate environment and managing high cost pressures, our focus business remain resilient. And we are seeing solid momentum in our consumer lending and fee-generating activities this year, while also SME lending has started to pick up again in September. Turning to Page 10 and our capital position, which remains a real strength. Our CET1 ratio remained at a very robust 21.3% at the end of the third quarter. For context, that's only slightly down from the 22% at the end of 2024, which was under Basel III rules, while third quarter is calculated under the new Basel IV or call it CRR3 rules. You will notice that our risk-weighted assets increased, and that's mainly driven by changes in risk weighting under Basel IV as well as the new interpretation of EBA guidelines on structural FX, which we already discussed on the back of the half-year results. Looking ahead, we recently received the final SREP for 2026, which includes a small increase in our Pillar 2 requirement, up by 25 basis points to 3.5%, while the Pillar 2 guidance stays unchanged at 3%. So in line with the draft that we disclosed earlier. In summary, our capital position is very strong, giving us a solid foundation for future growth and the flexibility to navigate regulatory changes with confidence. With that, I'll hand over to Tadej for more on risk management.
Tadej Krašovec: Thank you, Edgar, and good afternoon, everyone. Let me walk you through the credit risk section for the first 3 quarters of 2025. I'm glad I can report that in the first 9 months, we achieved excellent collection from defaulted clients, surpassing our goals and positively impacting loan loss provisions. At the same time, we managed risk rules dynamically and decisively to keep portfolio quality and NPE inflow under control on the group level. All that led to the NPE decrease, low NPE ratio and the level of loan loss provisions. I will talk about on this on the next page. As we see on the right-hand side of the slide, NPE portfolio decreased by EUR 2.5 million in the last quarter, which brings it to the EUR 4.9 million decrease on a year-to-date basis. NPE volume decreased to EUR 140 million, which is reflected in a stable [ NPE ] ratio of 2.9%. Short-term NPE initiatives are still ongoing, like, for example, further portfolio sale to dynamically drive further NPE portfolio reductions. At this point, I would like to refer to local limitations that central banks are imposing and were before mentioned by Herbert, specifically DTI limitations. Although these regulations will restrict more indebted and therefore, higher risk clients from obtaining larger loans with banks, which will result in an improved consumer portfolio quality; the excluded clients do not have a risk profile that would not be acceptable for Addiko. For context, clients who are no longer eligible due to new regulation limits have on average a default rate twice as high as those that remain eligible. However, the default rates in both groups remains below 2%. Using nearly 10 years of consumer behavioral data, we know that clients who have become noneligible demonstrate a risk profile well aligned with Addiko's business model and profitability objectives. Before going to the next page, let me revisit the topic from the previous calls. This is consumer portfolio in Slovenia. We see that smart risk restrictions implemented in the previous months have already a positive impact on the portfolio quality, which is getting gradually closer to our expectations. Let's move on to Slide 11. Loan loss provisions amounted to EUR 25.5 million in the first 9 months of 2025, resulting in a cost of risk of negative 0.71% on net loans basis. Segment breakdown is as follows: in Consumer, we recognized minus 0.7% cost of risk; in SME, minus 1.3% cost of risk, while nonfocus contributed to loan loss releases with a positive cost of risk of 1.6%. Development in SME segment was impacted by a black swan event, which represent almost 1/5 of loan loss provisions recognized in 2025. We talked about this case already in the previous earnings call. Loan loss provisions also include additional post-model adjustments recognized in the third quarter in the amount of EUR 3 million. The post-model adjustments will be netted out by model changes that will take effect in fourth quarter this year. This amount is in addition to EUR 1.2 million previously booked post-model adjustment to cover sub-portfolios where insufficient data is available for precise calibration. In conclusion, overall, Addiko's risk position remains stable and resilient, further supported by a strong collection performance and active portfolio management, resulting in a reduction of nonperforming exposure and lower loan loss provisions. Thank you for your attention and go back to Herbert.
Herbert Juranek: Thank you, Tadej. Let's move on to the wrap-up. At the top of the slide, we present our current 2025 outlook figures. While our guidance is currently under review, due to the potential impact coming from the regulatory front, we have decided to maintain the stated outlook for 2025. We will update our guidance in line with the revised midterm plan and disclose it together with the year-end results for 2025 on the 5th of March 2026. Now we currently operate in a macroeconomic environment marked by global uncertainties, driven by conflicts such as the war initiated by Russia, shifting tariff conditions and persistent supply chain disruptions. Europe and the European Union are very much affected by these developments. However, if we look at the markets where we are operating in, they are performing better than the EU average and are also expected to sustain this outperformance. On that basis, we will concentrate our efforts to further innovate our product offerings and services to our customers in order to initiate sustainable growth in both business segments, Consumers and SMEs. Therefore, we are working on the preparation of our new midterm specialization program, which shall be launched and presented to you in the first quarter of 2026. This program shall enable further optimization of our cost base, expand digitalization capabilities and contain projects to exploit productive and profitable AI-based solutions. Altogether, we are confident to find the path to compensate the negative effects coming from the regulatory front and to prepare Addiko for future growth. Of course, by doing so, we will keep our prudent risk approach as one of our strategic anchors. Together with our dedicated team, we remain committed to delivering our best as we pursue our ambition to become the leading specialist bank for consumers and SMEs in Southeast Europe. On that basis, we will work with full energy to further improve the bank to create value for our clients and for our shareholders. With that, I would like to conclude the presentation. Our next earnings call to present to you the year-end results of 2025 is scheduled for the 5th of March 2026. I would like to thank you for your attention. We are now ready for your questions. Operator, back to you.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Ben Maher from KBW.
Benjamin Maher: I've got a couple. The first one is just on Romania. I was just interested to get your views on why the market is seen as particularly attractive. Is it seen as an underserved Consumer segment? Or is there other reasons that you're targeting a particular market for growth? I understand you're going to give your targets with full-year results, but it would be helpful just to get a sense of how important Romania will be as kind of a share of the business or a share of the loan book in kind of the terminal kind of state. And my second question is on the competitive pressures you note. Is this concentrated in a specific market? Or is this seen across your footprint? And then the third question is just on capital. As you said, it's very solid. I see the dividend still suspend. So I'm just interested for your thoughts on how you plan to monetize the excess capital next year. And then sorry, just a final clarification. Was it a EUR 10 million unmitigated revenue impact from the regulatory changes? I think you said, but perhaps I misheard.
Herbert Juranek: Okay. Thank you for your question. Maybe we start one by one with Romania. I will give a brief feedback and maybe also, Ganesh, if you can then add your view on that. We consider Romania as an attractive market, given the digital capabilities given to us and also the stage of development of the market overall and the size of the market. So if you consider our existing markets, we lack scale there because of the size of the given countries. So we see that as an opportunity with our business model. We differentiate ourselves with a solution, which is very, very efficient straight through online. And we differentiate ourselves also with the USP that customers don't need an account with us when we do business. But I also have to admit that we are currently in a starting phase, we have a good engine, but our brand is not known. So that's what we are currently focusing on building up our brand there and getting traction on our business. Maybe, Ganesh, if you want to add something?
GaneshKumar Krishnamoorthi: I think you mentioned well there. But additionally, we would like to expand this not just solely on the B2C level, we are also looking at expanding other channels digitally going forward. So we are exploring that options as well. And we will be also enhancing the product features with more refinancing capabilities. So yes, there's more things we are working on, which would help us to position more stronger than what we are today. But I think Herbert covered it with the USP, there's a distinct proposition we have in Romania.
Edgar Flaggl: And maybe just to add or conclude on the Romanian questions, if I remember all of them correctly, so you asked about the impact or kind of the contribution in the results. So this year, we are not expecting any noteworthy contribution. It's rather the opposite due to building up the engine and also having some kind of a marketing push, as we disclosed. There is costs. It will take a bit of time for kind of a positive contribution to materialize. But overall, it's rather negligible in the short -- near and short term.
Herbert Juranek: Okay. Let's go on to the second question.
Edgar Flaggl: So the second one was, and Ben shout, if I misunderstood you, on the competitive pressure that we're seeing if this is like specific markets or across the board.
GaneshKumar Krishnamoorthi: Thanks, Ben, for the question. So yes, on the SME level, we are seeing competition really pricing it quite low. They're looking for low margins and higher volumes in the loan book. We have also -- we faced this pressure already in a couple of quarters. We are also adjusting some price going forward and so focusing on growth. You already saw we have recovered well with the growth around 9%. So yes, I mean, we will continue to go forward. So -- but the competition is pricing across the markets, not just a specific market. We are seeing this quite extensively there. On the Consumer side, obviously, the whole Euribor changes is reflecting a much more lower interest rate environment. We see a big pricing pressure and also in Consumer side. And additionally, if you heard Herbert, he also mentioned we have in Serbia, a special situation where we have to drop our price 3% based on the new regulation. So yes, so a lot of pressure across the markets on the pricing side.
Herbert Juranek: And the last question was on the capital and on the dividend. So if I understood you correctly, the question was, how is our view there and how do we want to continue here? From -- so according to the current situation, the shareholder situation did not change. So also, our perspective on the dividend is not changing. So there is no change for the time being. So what do we do with the additional capital? Of course, we will use it for further growth. But on the other hand, if the situation with the shareholders would change, we would also return back to the payout. Our dividend policy did not change. So we still are committed to the 50% payout ratio. And as soon as the topic is solved, we would return to that.
Edgar Flaggl: And I think, Ben, you had one more question on the EUR 10 million unmitigated potential top line impact, but I didn't get the full question.
Benjamin Maher: No. So just checking out the correct number. I want to make sure I didn't mishear -- it was that EUR 10 million unmitigated revenue impact.
Edgar Flaggl: Yes, it's just above EUR 10 million.
Operator: Next question comes from Mladen Dodig, Erste Bank.
Mladen Dodig: Congratulations on the third quarter. If you allow me, I'm happy to see that in Serbia, you have finally managed to capture the decline -- to arrest the decline in the credit portfolio. So congratulations to that, too. As you explained, the moves with the interest rates, very difficult to grasp with also in Serbia. But again, it's a market battle. I already wrote my questions in the Q&A, so I will try to repeat them. IR sensitivity and breakdown of fixed and variable interest rate arrangements, if I'm not mistaken, there is -- that slide is missing in the presentation or not.
Edgar Flaggl: Mladen, good to have you on the call. This is Edgar speaking. So you're absolutely right, it's missing because we only publish it on a half yearly basis. But if you would go back to the half-year results, I think it's Page 34, 35 or something, you would actually have it there. And given the structure of our balance sheet, it hasn't changed much.
Mladen Dodig: It hasn't changed.
Edgar Flaggl: Not much. So 14%, 1-4, is variable in our total loan book.
Mladen Dodig: So the colleague already asked about Romania. You said a couple of things about the specialization program. So looking to extend the digital proposition efficiency and AI-based solutions. Any other details, maybe duration or some -- anything else on this?
Herbert Juranek: Yes. I mean we will disclose it next year, but -- and we are currently in the process of finalizing our new midterm plan, and the specialization program will be part of that. So it's still under construction, but we aim -- it will have three different layers, the program, and it will be a midterm program. So it will last at least 2 years, potentially a bit more. So intended to bring the bank to the next level. And we will present it then, as said, together with the year-end result in 2026.
Mladen Dodig: You already talked about the dividend and the shareholder structure. Could you tell us anything -- I bet you can't, but I need to ask. So is there any kind of event on the horizon that might trigger either the recall of this recommendation or some other action by the regulator?
Herbert Juranek: Well, we are not aware about anything which would release or change our perspective on the dividend for the time being. But we are also prepared -- as I said beforehand, if the shareholder situation would change, we would be also ready to take actions on our side and to adjust accordingly. But if there was something already known today, we would, of course, disclose it.
Mladen Dodig: And final question regarding Romania. I was recently in Bucharest and wanted to ask you, could it be possible that I heard commercial on Addiko on the radio...
Herbert Juranek: Yes, this could be well because we -- as I said beforehand, we started our marketing campaign in August. And we will continue with this marketing campaign, and it also includes radio and TV.
Mladen Dodig: Yes. I was driving there, and I heard something on radio because I don't know one word of Romanian, but I think I recognized the Addiko.
Herbert Juranek: Good that you recognized it.
Mladen Dodig: Yes. So yes, as you said, you are there, but it needs -- it takes time. Sorry for this mess-up with the call. Obviously, I changed recently with my computer. So obviously...
Edgar Flaggl: No worries, Mladen. All good.
Herbert Juranek: Any other questions?
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question from the phone line. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Sara for questions on the webcast.
Sara Zezelic: Thank you, operator. We have not received any further questions on the webcast. I'm handing over to Herbert for closing remarks.
Herbert Juranek: So in this case, I would thank you very much for your attention. All the best from our side, and we hear each other then in March next year with our year-end results. Thank you very much for attending.
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