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Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the HUGO BOSS Q3 2025 Results Conference Call and Live Webcast. I'm Moritz, the Chorus Call operator. [Operator Instructions] The conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast. At this time, it's my pleasure to hand over to Christian Stohr, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Christian Stoehr: Thank you and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to our third quarter 2025 results presentation. Hosting our conference call today is Yves Muller, CFO and COO of HUGO BOSS. Before we begin, please be reminded that all growth rates related to revenue will be discussed on a currency adjusted basis unless stated otherwise. To ensure a smooth and efficient Q&A session, we kindly ask you to limit your questions to 2. And with that, let's get started. Yves, the floor is yours.
Yves Muller: Thank you, Christian, and a warm welcome from Metzingen, ladies and gentlemen. As outlined in our press release this morning, HUGO BOSS delivered a solid set of third quarter results despite ongoing headwinds across the global consumer landscape. While the environment remained volatile and traffic levels in many markets faced pressure, we executed with discipline and focus, prioritizing the levers within our control. In particular, we stayed committed to advancing our long-term priorities with a strong emphasis on further strengthening our brand equity through investments in brand building initiatives. This dedication coupled with our focus on operational excellence and strict cost discipline resulted in robust gross margin improvements and notable bottom line enhancements. Let's, therefore, take a closer look at our Q3 financial performance. Group sales declined 1% year-over-year mainly due to an unfavorable timing of wholesale deliveries. In reported terms, revenues were down 4% as substantial currency headwinds, particularly from the weaker U.S. dollar, weighed on the top line performance. Meanwhile, EBIT remained stable at EUR 95 million with the EBIT margin improving by 30 basis points to 9.6%. This solid margin expansion highlights the success of our structural efficiency measures across both COGS and OpEx. Beyond the numbers, Q3 was marked by several high profile initiatives that further elevated the desirability of our brands fully aligned with the priorities of our CLAIM 5 strategy. The 2 key events deserve a special mention. The BOSS Spring/Summer 2026 Fashion Show in Milan, which captured global attention and achieved even higher social media engagement than last year's event. Additionally, the second drop of the BECKHAM x BOSS collection in late September saw a successful start delivering strong social media results and promising sell-through rates. This underscores the relevance and influence of David Beckham and the unique value of our partnership. Building on these achievements, let's take a closer look at how our brands performed in Q3. Our BOSS Menswear business once more demonstrated its resilience in the third quarter with revenues remaining stable year-over-year. This performance highlights the enduring appeal of our premium positioning and the versatility of our 24/7 lifestyle approach. At the same time, we advanced our strategic efficiency measures initiated earlier this year for BOSS Womenswear and HUGO. These initiatives focused on sharpening product assortments and refining distribution strategies are now in full swing and are critical to positioning both brands for sustainable value creation in the years ahead. And while they are temporary, weigh on top line development with revenue for both BOSS Womenswear and HUGO below prior year levels in Q3, we remain confident in the underlying strength of both brands. By addressing these short-term challenges we targeted and decisive actions, we are creating a solid foundation for future growth. Let's now turn to our performance by region. In EMEA, sales declined 2% year-over-year. Revenue improvements in both Germany and France were offset by softer trends in the U.K. reflecting the muted discretionary spending across the market. Moving over to the Americas where momentum continues to improve sequentially and drove revenues up by 3%. The performance was supported by another quarter of growth in the important U.S. market while Latin America even accelerated to double-digit growth. In Asia Pacific, sales declined 4% year-over-year mainly driven by lower revenues in China. Encouragingly, however, revenues in China showed a slight sequential improvement quarter-over-quarter. To further support brand relevance locally, at the beginning of October we celebrated the release of the latest BECKHAM x BOSS collection with a pop-up launch event in Shanghai. Meanwhile, Southeast Asia Pacific achieved a modest revenue increase in Q3 supported by another solid performance in Japan. Turning to our channel performance. Our brick-and-mortar retail business showed a modest sequential improvement with sales remaining stable versus prior year period. This performance was primarily driven by stronger conversion rates and higher sales per transaction, which helped to offset muted store traffic seen across several markets. Also, our digital business continued its positive trajectory with sales up 2% to last year. Growth was supported by a solid performance on hugoboss.com alongside sustained momentum in our digital partner business, both grew by 2% in the third quarter. Meanwhile, in brick-and-mortar wholesale, sales declined 5% year-over-year primarily due to the timing of delivery, which impacted Q3 performance by approximately EUR 20 million. However, we are confident that this effect will be fully offset in the fourth quarter as our Fall/Winter collections continue to resonate well with our partners. Accordingly, we anticipate a recovery in wholesale revenues in the final quarter complementing the momentum in our retail business as we approach year-end. Turning to the gross margin, which was a clear standout in the quarter and a testament to our progress in driving structural efficiency. In Q3, our gross margin improved by a strong 100 basis points reaching 61.2%. The expansion was fueled by further efficiency gains in sourcing, lower product cost and reduced global freight rates. At the same time, we experienced slightly negative mix effects while promotion activity had a neutral impact on gross margin development. Let's now shift to our cost base. Operating expenses declined 3% year-over-year marking 5 consecutive quarters of disciplined OpEx management. These gains were achieved across key business areas including sales, marketing and administration and underscore our commitment to operational excellence. In particular, selling and marketing expenses decreased 3% supported by a 4% reduction in brick-and-mortar retail expenses. In addition, we further optimized marketing investments, which amounted to 7.1% of group sales in Q3 and 7.4% for the first 9 months. Our approach remains highly targeted, prioritizing brand initiatives that generate the greatest commercial impact while continuously strengthening brand relevance. Lastly, administration expenses declined 2% compared to the prior year period as we continue driving efficiency across our global support functions. Driven by the robust gross margin expansion and our focus on optimizing operating expenses, EBIT reached EUR 95 million in Q3, thus stable compared to the prior year period. This translated into a 30 basis point increase in the EBIT margin reaching 9.6%. Below the operating line, our financial results significantly improved year-over-year supported by favorable ForEx effects and lower interest expenses. As a result, net income after minority increased by 7% translating into earnings per share of EUR 0.85, equally up 7% compared to last year. Also when we look at the first 9 months of the year, we delivered solid profitability improvements. Our gross margin expanded by 30 basis points to 61.8% while operating expenses declined by 2% underlying the continued success of our various efficiency measures. Consequently, the EBIT margin improved by 30 basis points to 7.9% in the first 9 months while earnings per share rose by 9% year-over-year. Looking at cash flow and key balance sheet items. Trade net working capital increased 11% in currency-adjusted terms reflecting both higher inventories and lower trade payables. Importantly, when compared to the previous quarter, inventories improved slightly and were down 1% reflecting our ongoing commitment to inventory management. On a 12-month moving average basis, trade net working capital amounted to 20.2% of group sales. Capital expenditure, on the other hand, declined substantially year-over-year down 51% to EUR 44 million. The decline was driven by increased investment efficiency and a more disciplined allocation of resources. As a result, for the full year, we now expect CapEx to come in at the lower end of our guidance range with investments expected to total around EUR 200 million in 2025. Altogether, our disciplined cost control combined with enhanced CapEx efficiency drove a solid improvement in cash flow generation in the third quarter. Free cash flow increased by 63% to a level of EUR 66 million. Importantly, we further expect improvements in cash generation in the final quarter, which has historically been our strongest period for cash generation. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes my remarks on the third quarter performance. Let's now turn to the full year outlook and how we're approaching the final quarter of 2025 from an operational perspective. As we enter Q4, we remain fully committed to executing our strategic agenda. Building on the progress of previous quarters, our approach is twofold. First, to unlock growth opportunities and strengthen brand relevance in order to support top line momentum. And second, to drive operational excellence while optimizing cost efficiency across key business functions. It is our deepest passion to inspire our consumers globally and strengthen engagement with both our brands, BOSS and HUGO, and Q4 has a lot to offer in that regard. After a busy October with a stunning BOSS Bottled event in New York City and the immersive in-store experience with Aston Martin, the countdown to BOSS Holiday Campaign has now begun. Officially launching tomorrow, the capsule represents a unique collaboration between BOSS and iconic plush toy company, Steiff. It will be visible across all key markets and will help to further fuel brand excitement heading into the peak season. Driving customer engagement remains another priority. In this context, we are building on the successful rollout of our customer loyalty program HUGO XP, which was launched in China and the U.S. during the third quarter. With now almost 30 million members worldwide, the global expansion of XP is well underway. The program enables us to deepen relationships with our most important customers, foster long-term loyalty and leverage commercially relevant moments during the upcoming holiday season and beyond. Equally as important, we will continue to leverage our global sourcing platform in the fourth quarter to secure additional efficiency gains and thus tailwinds to our margin development. In addition, the low to mid-single-digit price increases that we are currently introducing with the Spring/Summer 2026 collections are expected to provide a modest positive contribution to profitability in the final quarter. Last, but not least, we will stick to our rigorous optimization of operating expenses, particularly in sales and marketing and administration. Taken together, these actions will ensure that HUGO BOSS is well positioned to strengthen its earning profile and successfully deliver on its full year commitments. In light of our performance during the first 9 months and our determined improvement game plan, we confirm our full year outlook for both sales and EBIT. As indicated in today's release, we now anticipate both top and bottom line results to come in at the lower end of our respective guidance ranges. This reflects the ongoing volatility in the global consumer environment as well as substantial currency headwinds recorded throughout the year. To be more precise, we now expect group sales for fiscal year 2025 to come in at a level of around EUR 4.2 billion. This includes an estimated negative currency impact of around EUR 100 million for the full year, primarily reflecting the depreciation of the U.S. dollar during the course of 2025. Consistent with this, we now expect EBIT to come in at the level of around EUR 380 million, likewise reflecting anticipated currency headwinds of up to EUR 20 million. Accordingly, we now forecast EBIT margin to improve to a level of around 9% as compared to 8.4% in the prior year. Ladies and gentlemen, let me briefly summarize today's key takeaways. As we look back on the third quarter and forward towards the end, a few points stand out. First, our performance in Q3 demonstrates the resilience and strength of our business model supported by sequential improvements in brick-and-mortar retail, solid gross margin expansion and the continued effectiveness of our cost efficiency measures. These factors provide a strong foundation as we enter the final quarter of the year. Second, while Q3 wholesale revenues were impacted by the timing of deliveries, we anticipate a recovery in Q4. Alongside continued efforts to drive our global D2C business, this positions us for a renewed acceleration of group sales heading into year-end. And third, the disciplined execution of our operational priorities together with our ongoing brand investments positions us well to further progress in Q4 and achieve our full year targets. Finally, looking beyond 2025, we are set to take the next steps on our CLAIM 5 journey. On December 3, we will share an update focused on the progress achieved so far in the key strategic areas that will guide our work in the years ahead. The update will reaffirm our strategic direction and underline how we are building on the foundation established over the past 4 years. And with this, we are now very happy to take your questions.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] And the first question comes from Grace Smalley from Morgan Stanley.
Grace Smalley: My first one, Yves, would just be on the strategic update in December. You touched on it at the end there, but could you just give us an idea of what we should be expecting come December? Will there be kind of multiyear financial targets, 3-year targets, 5-year targets? And just broadly, any high level thoughts on how you see the strategy evolving from here? And then my second question, understood on the wholesale shift between Q3 and Q4. But as you look at wholesale order books into 2026, could you give us an update on how you're seeing those order books evolve especially in the U.S. market given the uncertainty there?
Yves Muller: Yes. Thank you very much for your questions. Taking your first question regarding the strategic update. Yes, like I said during my presentation, we will talk about what we have achieved during CLAIM 5 and we will give you a kind of strategic update for the next years. Don't expect this to be for the next 5 years because I think in this kind of volatile environment, a 5-year horizon is far out. So rather expect a kind of, let's say, midterm perspective of strategic priorities that we are taking on our journey. And regarding the wholesale shift, yes, overall, our Q3 results, and I just want to make it clear, were impacted by around EUR 20 million. The positive thing is we can see already in Q4 that we see the reversal of this delivery shift. So the October results show a material improvement regarding the wholesale development in Q4 and that this delivery shift has somehow reversed, which is a positive. And overall, we have seen regarding our wholesale orders and I said this already back in August that we have seen a kind of softening of our wholesale orders. I think please bear in mind that over the last years we have seen -- over '21 and '24, we've seen a CAGR of 20% of growth in wholesale brick-and-mortar and this is actually what we overall have expected a kind of softening. And for the Fall collection, we are just selling it. It's too early to call because we're in the middle of the selling period. So no further news on these kind of order impacts.
Operator: And the next question comes from Manjari Dhar from RBC.
Manjari Dhar: I had 2 as well, if I may. My first question is just a quick follow-up on wholesale. I just wondered if you could give some color on how much the replenishment business is down and perhaps sort of color -- I presume most of the softness there is in the U.S., but any color on that would be helpful. And then secondly, just a question on the sourcing efficiency gains. I just wondered sort of as you look forward, how much more upside do you see for gross margin from sourcing efficiency and how much more work do you think there is to be done in improving that sourcing layout?
Yves Muller: Manjari, I was just talking to Christian because I tried to recall your first question regarding wholesale and the replenishment business. So the replenishment business in Q3 was down by low to mid-single digit. It was more or less somehow also expected was a kind of slight improvement also versus our Q2 results. And regarding U.S. wholesale preorders, it's pretty similar with the overall general view that we have given. So the order intakes and the delivery, it's very much in line with the global development. So not a kind of, let's say, further comments that need to be done on the U.S. market. And regarding your second question regarding sourcing efficiency, I think sourcing efficiency was a major driver in Q3 regarding our performance on gross margin and this is actually to be continued going further. So we still see more potential in terms of vendor consolidation and optimizing our portfolio and this should be continued. And actually what we are expecting for our gross margin going into the -- or finalizing our year 2025 that we want to be actually above the 62% gross margin. Originally that was our target. And we are very confident that with the support of the sourcing efficiency and with the freight cost optimization that we will get beyond the 62% gross margin mark.
Operator: And the next question comes from Jurgen Kolb from Kepler Cheuvreux.
Jurgen Kolb: First of all, on number of stores. If my numbers are not incorrect, I think you closed stores in the APAC region for the first time in a long history. Is that a change of positioning in that region? First question. And then secondly, on the inventory side, which is still obviously a little bit up or, let's say, inflated. How much of this inventory level is covered by your order book and how do you see really the freshness and the current situation of the inventory side?
Yves Muller: Jurgen, thank you very much for your 2 questions. Regarding the space in retail. So I think it's worth mentioning that if you compare the space Q3 2024 versus 2025, there has been actually no effect from space so it was on the same level. And those stores that might have disappeared in APAC, these are actually continued optimizations that we are taking. For example if we don't achieve those results in renegotiating the rents, we take a risk approach in closing stores. I think I said this already in August and this will -- at the end, we want to have a robust store portfolio and this applies not only to APAC, but also applies to EMEA and the United States. We have defined clear profitability levers and if we do not achieve this by renewing the rents, we might take the action to close those stores. So there's nothing specific that we want to call out besides a continuous optimization of the store portfolio. And regarding the inventory, I think it's also worth mentioning that our inventory position slightly declined versus Q2, point one. And point two is that our aged merchandise, if I compare my aged merchandise in comparison to last year, has also in percentage improved versus last year. So the merchandise is very fresh. It's driven by stock in transit and by the current collections and the aging of the inventories have not deteriorated year-over-year.
Operator: And the next question comes from Andreas Riemann from ODDO BHF.
Andreas Riemann: Two topics. First one, HUGO and Womenswear, both are down significantly year-to-date and it sounds like you are reducing the product range and there's also adjustment in the distribution. So can you explain that in more detail and when is this exercise going to end? This would be the first topic. And the second one, the U.S. business. So to what extent did you adjust the prices actually in North America? And would you say your price increases in the U.S. are in line with what you see in the market or did you differ? These would be my 2 topics.
Yves Muller: Yes. Andreas, thank you very much for your 2 questions. Actually you already took your answers for HUGO and BOSS Womenswear. So we are streamlining our product range. This is point one for both brands, BOSS Womenswear and HUGO. So this has something to do with collection complexity. So the mindset is to get better before bigger. So this is the mindset we have for those 2 brands. And the second thing is that we look at the distribution and for example, especially for BOSS Womenswear, if our space is somehow limited, we'd rather take BOSS Womenswear out with BOSS Green into those spaces if the space is somehow limited in the distribution. This is the exercise that we have now started with Q2 and will materialize over the second half of this year. And I think further comments I would somehow refer to our strategic update on the 3rd of December to be more explicit for the way forward for both brands, BOSS and HUGO. And regarding U.S. so like I said already back in August, we have taken a kind of global price increase overall low to mid-single digit for the Spring campaign. So this will be visible now in the second half of Q4 where we drop this kind of merchandise. This will also help us in terms of top line development globally and also will help us from a profitability standpoint. But your question was related to the U.S. I think we try to do smart price increases and we are very much in line with our competition here how we increase the prices and we observed the market. But nothing that would -- really needs to be emphasized regarding the U.S. market.
Andreas Riemann: Yes. But maybe a follow-up. Is the U.S. then more than low to mid or is it in line with low to mid that you did for the group?
Yves Muller: It's in line with low to mid.
Operator: And the next question comes from Anthony Charchafji from BNP Paribas.
Anthony Charchafji: Just 2. The first one on top line and then one on profitability. So just on top line given the low range of the guide, it would imply an organic growth in Q4 rather flattish to slightly positive, which would be 1 or 2 percentage point improvement. Could you please comment on the retail part? Comps are getting quite tougher especially in December for the whole sector. Could you maybe give some color on current trading retail and how you see it evolves? And my second question is on profitability. If I take again the low end of the guidance, EUR 380 million, it seems that your Q4 is quite derisked because you have some quite a bit of impairment in the base EUR 47 million. What changed in terms of deciding, I would say, to narrow the range? Do you previously expected some impairment reversal and now not anymore or is there anything else to have in mind?
Yves Muller: Anthony, thank you very much for your questions. So first regarding top line, let me try to phrase it. First of all, I think from a wholesale point of view, you have to keep in mind that this delivery shift will or, like I already said, has materialized. So this is the kind of tailwind that we are seeing. Secondly, regarding retail brick-and-mortar, you have seen now over the last quarters a kind of sequential improvement coming from minus 4% to minus 1% now to flattish in terms of retail improvement. So we expect that this improvement will prevail also going into Q4. Thirdly, I think what is worth mentioning is that with the sale of the Spring season, you will see also a kind of price increase that will somehow materialize and will help us. And fourthly, I think we are now really entering into Black Friday. You have seen also on hb.com and our digital sphere that we have seen major improvements from Q3 versus Q2. So we will somehow take this kind of improvement also into Q4 to reach our top line targets. And regarding profitability, I think you're right. We have disclosed we had our impairments last year on the level that were close to EUR 50 million. They were definitely kind of elevated if I look at the latest -- if I look at the last years of impairments that we did. So I think what you can expect from a bottom line perspective that we can see a kind of technical support coming from the impairments for the year in 2025.
Operator: And the next question comes from Daria Nasledysheva from Bank of America.
Daria Nasledysheva: This is Daria from Bank of America. Can I please ask what is your view on promotional backdrop as we head into Q4? Wondering on a global basis, but also in the U.S. considering the inventory positions, yours and more broadly for the industry? And my second question is could you please help us contextualize the trends that you have seen during Q3 especially on retail? What has been the cadence of the quarter? Did trends improve in September to support your expectation of improvement into Q4?
Yves Muller: Thank you, Daria, for your questions. So regarding promotions, I think it's worth mentioning that overall that the promotional activity is overall intense. On the other side, you have to bear in mind that our promotional numbers were somehow neutral in Q3 and actually we expect this also for Q4 that they are more or less neutral. I mean they have been elevated now for the last 5 quarters and we expect that the promotional activity, I would say, globally because if you look at the consumer sentiment globally, I think it's a remark that applies for a lot of important markets. I think they will remain on this elevated level and our expectation is that they remain -- it's neutral. And regarding retail, I was pointing out in the last question in my answer that actually for Q4 that we further expect the kind of, let's say, sequential improvement also that were visible now for the latest quarters, I said Q1, Q2, Q3. So we've seen this kind of slight improvement over the last quarters and we expect that this continues to prevail now for the final important quarter.
Operator: And the next question comes from Robert Krankowski from UBS.
Robert Krankowski: Just 2 questions for me, please. So first one is just on the cost control. You made pretty good job on the cost control year-to-date. But I just want to think in terms of, let's say, persistent pressures on your top line going forward, would you consider maybe stepping up investments behind the brand to support the growth? And you talked about the acceleration in Q4 that you expect towards the end of the year and could you talk maybe a bit about the beginning of the quarter? I think the comp is relatively changing. Maybe if you could give us a bit more color on the regions; the U.S., Europe; how the quarter has started.
Yves Muller: Yes. So thank you very much for your words around cost control. So I think it's worth mentioning that we are continuously working on cost control. You have seen that we started actually last year in Q3 with these kind of cost decreases and now actually the comp base is getting more difficult. But I think we have shown also in Q3 that we really have a high cost discipline and that we have come up with some structural efficiency moves also when it comes to cost now because now year-over-year, we have seen 2 years not only in 2024 and Q4, but also in 2025 in Q3, a kind of cost decrease. So we really lay emphasis on this in order to have the full alignment between our top line performance and bottom line. And definitely even if you look at marketing, we are now after 9 months at 7.4% marketing spending. We always said during CLAIM 5, we want to be in the range between 7% and 8%. So I would say even from a marketing perspective, we are well in line with what we have promised to the capital market. Of course we see positive impacts. We are now starting our Holiday Campaign. So we keep on investing into the brand. I think this is very important for us. On the other side, I want to highlight that we want to make our marketing spendings more efficient. So the idea is always to get most out of EUR 1 spend. A good example is for example the Fashion Show, which was less expensive than last year, but we got higher media value out of our Fashion Show with positive comments. I think this is what we like if we spend less and actually get more out of it, it has a higher impact. So definitely, we want to invest in our brand. There are a lot of initiatives coming up in the most commercial period of the year and at the same time we keep our costs under control. And regarding the color of current trading, let me be -- let's say, let's keep it on a global level because otherwise the discussion gets, let's say, too detailed around regions. But I can comment that we were happy how we started into the Q4 like I already said in the beginning.
Christian Stoehr: Great. Thank you, Yves. Thanks, Robert, for your question and thanks to all of you for today's session. There is no further questions or hands raised in the queue. So I would like to thank you for dialing in today. This officially concludes today's conference call. Thanks for your participation. And of course we look forward to connecting with many of you over the next days and weeks. Look forward to speaking to you soon. Thanks very much. And in case of any questions, please reach out to the IR team.
Yves Muller: Thank you and have a great day. Bye now.
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