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Adriana Wagner: Good morning, and welcome to the ENGIE Brasil Energia's Third Quarter '25 Earnings Results Video Conference. I'm Adriana Wagner, Investor Relations Analyst at ENGIE Brasil, and I would like to make a few announcements. [Operator Instructions] It is worth remembering that this video conference is being recorded at our site, www.engie.com.br/investors, we have made available the results presentation and earnings release filed at the CVM, which analyzes financial statements, operational results, ESG indicators and progress in the implementation of new projects in detail. Before proceeding, I would like to clarify that all statements that may be made during this video conference regarding the company's business outlook should be treated as forecast depending on the country's macroeconomic conditions of the performance regulation of the electric sector besides other variables. They are, therefore, subject to change. We remind the journalists who wish to ask questions that they can do it through e-mail sending it to the company's press conference to present the results. We have with us today, Mr. Pierre Gratien Leblanc, the CFO and IRO; Guilherme Ferrari, Renewable Energy and Storage Officer; Marcos Keller, Director of Energy Trading; and Leonardo Depine, Manager for Investor Relationships. I would like to give the floor to Pierre to begin the presentation.
Pierre Gratien Leblanc: So good morning, everyone. I will do it in English. So I hope it will be fine for everyone. So thanks for joining us in this -- during this hour. Always a very, very important moment for us to meet you and to explain you the financial results and the main highlights for the last quarter '25. So if we start with the highlights, it can be the main achievement we realized during this quarter are the following. First of all, regarding our project Assuruá and Assu Sol, we now almost complete the physical phases, and we are starting the operational commercial operations. So we are on time, and it's a very, very great achievement for us. Then we complete also the acquisition and the integration in our portfolio of the 2 hydro power plant, Santo Antonio do Jari and Cachoeira. So now there are -- the 2 assets are fully embedded in our portfolio management and since mid of August, and they are starting to contribute in our EBITDA. We won for the 15th time the trophy of transparency in accounting, Anefac, which recognize the transparency and the quality of our financial statements. And it's a very, very great job from teams and our accounting team. We also be certified as the Best Place to Work according to the GPTW, Great Place to Work Brazil. So good company and good achievement from our HR team. Then I have to mention that there is a subsequent event post from Q3. This is an increase of our social capital. So we decided because we need to comply with the law and our profit reserve was above our social capital in late '24. So we need to increase our capital through the profit reserve incorporation. So we will do it during November months, and we will do it through bonus shares. Then Q3 results in terms of finance is a very, very -- next slide, please. is a very, very good, robust and solid results. As you can see on the slide, our EBITDA grew by almost 12.54% compared to last quarter '24, which is good results. And if we look at year-end -- year-to-date EBITDA, of course, on a recurring basis, we increased our EBITDA in '25 by 6.4%. It's a little bit less true regarding the net recurring results because you can see that we decreased by -- in year-to-date by 8.4% our net income due to the -- mainly 3 factors. First of all, we see an increase of our depreciation of assets because we do have compared to last year, 3 big assets now in operation like Caldeirao Cachoeira. We also have an increase of our financial expenses linked to the high interest rate in Brazil in '25 much higher than in '24. And we do have an increase in our tax expenses also. But overall, very good results, robust. We deliver what we say. So ENGIE is a healthy company on that. Then regarding the ESG KPIs, well oriented to be fair, all of them, except maybe -- and unfortunately, we have to -- 4 accidents during the last quarter '25, 4 accidents with work stop days, some days. So we are still paying a lot of attention, a lot of focus on that. And we also support a lot the increase of the women in our leadership team. So we are on track. We are on the good way to achieve our results. We increased the percentage of women in our leadership team. And we continue to invest in innovation and in our responsibility, social responsibility even if we decrease a little bit our contribution on that. Now time to leave the floor to Guilherme in order for him to present the operation in renewables.
Guilherme Ferrari: Very well, I'm going to explain what underlies these figures. Here, we have the availability of our wind, solar and electric assets. Our performance continues to improve, especially in wind and photovoltaic. We have a team that works closely with our suppliers so that we can have greater availability in our equipment. This is the effort of our team, of course, with the help of investment, always seeking good performance of our assets. Now the performance has been significant in these 2 technologies. In energy, we are subject to seasonality, but we're also following a very good availability standard. In transmission, also a very high availability. And of course, these are assets that are more predictable in terms of operations, except for unforeseen things, but we're doing well in transmission as well. Now regarding curtailment, the hot topic in the sector of renewable energy, it has been significantly impacting our generation. The impact is on wind, solar assets and very much aligned with what is happening in the system. We attempt, of course, to minimize this, optimize everything with maintenance, management of these curtailments. We hope that a solution for curtailment will come in the fourth quarter with operational adjustments that should come from ANEEL and the National Integration System. Now another important point that has already been mentioned by Pierre is the acquisition of Cachoeira Caldeirao and Santo Antonio do Jari. And I think you can go on to the next slide. No, perhaps not. If you could go back. Therefore, the organic growth in this quarter, where we added 680 megas additionally from [ Cerrado ] and additionally, the 2 hydroelectric plants mentioned by Cachoeira Caldeirao and Santo Antonio do Jari with 612 megawatts. Next slide, please. As has already been mentioned, we see a growth in generation. This comes from our organic growth and from the M&A operation we have just carried out. Once again, it's organic growth and an enhancement in performance. This year, the wind situation was above what we had expected, helping us to minimize the issue of curtailment. Operational enhancement, better natural resources, both solar and wind, all of these are helping us have an increase in power generation. Next slide. Keller, you have the floor.
Marcos Amboni: Good morning to everybody. And I think this slide summarizes our trading activity for the quarter. It was an excellent quarter. And in the graph to the right, you can observe that we had very good sales during the quarter. Now this is a comment we made in the call of last quarter that some operations that were under negotiation are still not reflected in our balance. And this is the case of this quarter, where they are reflected, the variation is due to the accounting of new productions with high production levels, and we're showing the availability, new contracts for all the years until 2029. So we have good volumes, as you can see. And besides these good production volumes, you can see the number of our consumers. We have a good evolution in that figure of consumers when compared with the same quarter last year. 17.6% increase of consumers. We have 2,056 at the close of the quarter and a growth of 24% in consumer units served in the third quarter of '25 until the end. Once again, very positive figures in energy sold, volumes sold as well as in our consumer portfolio with a lower ticket perhaps, but with higher margin. We can see the position of our resources available until 2030 going forward. This means that we continue with that strategy of contracting through time, fine-tuning tactical adjustments, gradual growth, guaranteeing revenues and the predictability of our results. I think this is what I wanted to say regarding that slide, and I am at your disposal during Q&A. Well, to go back to the projects that are under implementation, the Assuruá Wind Complex, as Pierre mentioned, the physical progress has been concluded. It is 100% operational. We're waiting for ANEEL dispatch to enter commercial operations of 100% of this complex. And we're waiting for the decision of ONS that has created new procedures to obtain, well, the license and to test these assets. It's worth highlighting that the Assuruá Wind Complex, as you already know, has quite a bit of supply and the performance has been much above what is expected. It surprises us in terms of its performance. It's the largest wind complex in Brazil and also the part with the best performance throughout Brazil. This project was delivered within the forcing budget within the right time line with health and security fully complied with. And we're in the final stage of execution, the environmental part, the recovery of degraded areas and investment in social areas surrounding the assets location. Next slide, please. Assu Sol, we have concluded it. We are progressing in installation activities. And because of this new procedure of the ONS, we're waiting to signal all of the procedures to be able to enter commercial activity. This is an asset with very good performance, top line performance. Now in terms of CapEx, it's all according to what has been scheduled. It was -- it is in accordance to our scheduling. And the same holds true for health and security. We have a recovery plan for the degraded areas. These are activities that tend to take longer, but within what is foreseen and as part of the social work that we carry out. Next slide, please. Our first transmission project in this presentation is Asa Branca. The first stretch is between [ Shaffield 2 and Corso 3]. It's about to be concluded. This should happen in the fourth quarter. Now at the end of this year, we will have 33% of the project RAP, a relevant amount compared to what we expected in the auction. Now the second stretch is awaiting the license for the continuation. This should take a few weeks, and this should begin the coming year. The final stretch of the project will only come into operation at the end of 2027. Well, in Grauna, this comes from a recent auction at the end of 2024. It's still in the environmental phase, but going according to plan. Now that red line that you see, the brownfield on the map. At the beginning of July, we began to operate that line. We have 5% of the total RAP, not that much, but an important framework for us. It's the first brownfield that we take on with our own operation, not with third parties. And of course, this is important for ENGIE. Regarding Grauna, now if anybody would like to add something, please do. No great updates compared to the last quarter. We -- Well, we are fully mapping everything out in the graph that you see. And regarding the transfer, which is a frequent question that we receive, we're still awaiting the stance of the controller, and there's nothing new this quarter regarding that topic. And the last one, Guilherme, who will speak about expansion where there is nothing that novel.
Guilherme Ferrari: Nothing new here. We continue to maintain our project pipeline. And we are awaiting and the market is reacting, of course. There are real demands. We hope this will not be impacted by curtailment. We continue to keep these in our portfolio, especially the wind assets so that we can follow on with their development. Expansions are always marginal, but highly welcome. And as part of this context, we have the possibility of the auction for capacity in the coming year. We have 2 of our assets, Santiago and others that will participate, but well, we will be able to take part in this auction. And another important point refers to the batteries. We're beginning to look at these with greater attention, the development of batteries to also take part in the auction that will take place in the coming year.
Marcos Amboni: Well, thank you, Guilherme. We'll go to see our financial performance, return on equity and return on invested capital at satisfactory levels, showing how resilient we are. We invested more than BRL 38 million in the last years, which means that our asset base has increased. And of course, it is updated. The prices in the past were old. It seemed to be greater with this new updated base, the prices have dropped a bit. And some of these projects are not delivering 100% of their EBITDA. This will become more clear in 2026, Assuruá and others delivering their full performance. And so the levels will be more recurrent. Now for the 9 months of '25, we have a slightly higher share of transmission vis-a-vis 2024 as part of our strategy of diversification. 1/4 comes from transmission, gas transportation, 75% from generation. Here, we see our revenue changes at 31.8%. Most of this due to IFRS, BRL 22 million in transmission, but we do have an important organic effect in growth of revenue and volumes, inflation and new assets coming into operation vis-a-vis the same period last year. And if we look at EBITDA, this will become more clear. Now to go to the results of TAG that continues to deliver a very consistent performance, BRL 2.3 billion, and BRL 1 billion -- almost BRL 1 billion of profit this quarter of net income, very similar to the first quarter, somewhat below the second quarter where we had a nonrecurrent effect and doing very well. Here, we have a more complex graph for this presentation referring to EBITDA at one end, the accounting EBITDA that is published. Then we have the intermediate bar that is adjusted EBITDA. This quarter, there were very few adjustments, as you can see and in the middle, adjusted EBITDA and the effect of IFRS, all have a similar growth between 10% and 13%. Transmission, very stable, equity income of tax somewhat lower. So we're left with generation with an increase of BRL 287 million that we have called performance is price, volume and expansion and reduction due to costs associated to expansion, connection cables, material service and sundry costs. This is a positive result coming from generation. Now in the middle, we have a growth of 10.5%. Net income change, a very similar panorama in the center, an increase of 10% from BRL 666 million to BRL 738 million, most comes from adjusted EBITDA, income taxes, negative variations due to depreciation, new assets and partly due to financial results. Our indebtedness has increased a bit. And we have, of course, the interest rates that are higher than the third quarter last year, leading to a 10% increase. We'll speak about our indebtedness, balance debt. It's increasing, which is expected BRL 3 million for the acquisition of Jari and Cachoeira. We have BRL 600 million in debt, BRL 3 million impact on our debt. Only this acquisition changed the EBITDA. It was 2.7x last year. It has now reached 3.2x. This is still a satisfactory level that guarantees a AAA, which we would like to maintain in gross debt, 3.8x, a well-balanced debt, as you can see. Of course, as of now, we need to be more cautious in our coming steps, but a healthy indebtedness. Now in this slide, we show you the debt profile and maturity, a very smooth schedule after 2030. Therefore, this profile is BRL 2 billion a year in terms of debt payment, fully under control. We continue to be AAA, 1/3 in CDI and the rest in IPCA. The cost of the debt evidently has increased a bit, 6.4% on average compared to 5.6% in the same period last year. Of course, there is pressure from the financial conditions throughout the country. Regarding our CapEx, no significant changes, a detachment year-on-year, almost BRL 10 billion year-on-year. This year, BRL 6 billion, which means the BRL 3 billion from Jari and Cachoeira and the rest for the conclusion of Jari, the transmission companies, that is where our CapEx is going to. And in '26, '27, everything at lower levels. We will be left with maintenance and the 2 transmission companies. Grauna that extends to 2028 and Asa Branca until 2027. And finally, well, this slide, I believe, is the same as that of last quarter to show you our payment of dividend 2021, 100%. And since '23, we maintain this at 55% without significant changes. And that is it. Adri will now lead the Q&A session for us.
Adriana Wagner: [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Daniel Travitzky from Safra. He has 2 questions. I will pose the first question and put it together with another question from [ Huang ], an individual investor about the share of bonuses. Could you explain the rationale to do that now? And we have the question from Ruan on the bonus and other models for the payout of dividends and shareholder capital.
Pierre Gratien Leblanc: I can take it, this one. You complement if you want. So why we are doing that? It's just because ahead of '24, our profit reserve was above the capital. And to be compliant with the law, we need to increase our capital -- social capital. This is the first point. The second point is we do have -- we had space until -- to increase our social capital until the authorized capital we do have. And this authorized capital was -- is today at BRL 7 billion. So we take the opportunity to go up to the limit or close to the limit. And we proposed to the Board yesterday, and it was approved to increase the social capital up to BRL 6.9 billion, and it will be done through a bonus action. Why? Just because we wanted to -- also to have a better liquidity of our shares in the stocks. And through these mechanisms, we will increase the liquidity of our shares without any financial impact at short term for our minority interest shareholders. Guilherme, if you want to complement or not, up to you.
Guilherme Ferrari: No, that was perfect, Pierre, simply to complement the remuneration model besides the shareholder equity payment. In the future, we can alter the company's stock. I don't think this will be done in the short term. This is a model that will be analyzed to see if there's any advantage in doing that.
Adriana Wagner: The second part of the question refers to your vision on the solution proposed for the curtailment in provisional measure 384. This is also part of Juan's question, who asks about curtailment and how to deal with it in the medium term?
Pierre Gratien Leblanc: I would like to begin the answer, then I will give the floor to Guilherme or Keller. This provisional measure 304 was approved, but not sanctioned. We have to wait for it to be sanctioned. And we need to understand the regulation better. Perhaps Guilherme would like to comment on what is included in this provisional measure.
Guilherme Ferrari: Well, this is simply to add information. We're faced with several uncertainties in terms of the real impact, which will be the reimbursement. We still have doubts if there will be reimbursement regarding power or if there will not be reimbursement. And there is an issue that we already mentioned, regulatory issues that could make investments in generation have a different technical condition to the ones we have presently, creating another obstacle to the incredible growth of generation companies. Now all of this strongly impacts our curtailment projections going forward.
Marcos Amboni: Well, I don't have very much to add. Everything has been said. We would have to see the final version of provisional measure 304. There are 2 articles that we need to analyze before we can estimate what will be subject to reimbursement and those articles that refer to us and the impact, the effect that this causes on physical distribution and distributed distribution. These are points that need to be further assessed at the end of this legislation. Now there is a positive point in the midterm, and it is interesting for the long term better conditions to insert batteries into the system. This will help us overcome several difficulties that we face at present and physical curtailment can be mitigated if we make good use of these batteries. Now in the coming months and years, we will see how this plays out. To complete that topic and others, we're going to approach this in great detail in ENGIE Day that will be held in Sao Paulo at the end of November. If you can't be with us, we will record the session.
Adriana Wagner: Our next question is from Joaquin. The question is will the company think of similar acquisitions compared to the assets recently acquired? Will this go in detriment of new assets in the renewable sector?
Guilherme Ferrari: I will begin and then Depine and Keller, please feel at ease to add your comments. Now evidently, the market with this oversupply ended up thinking greenfield made no sense. And with curtailment massively impacting the results, greenfield has been put aside. Now this is a factor that will make us postpone our decision to invest in greenfields. And when we look at M&A for wind and solar operations, the curtailment factor is a fundamental assumption. Of course, the seller will try to insist on curtailment. The buyer will insist on a more realistic curtailment, and this leads to a great difference in values. Potential M&As for renewable wind and solar energy will have to wait until we have a clear vision of the impact of provisional measure 304 and the regulation that will come about to work with distributed generation. Now M&As in hydro plants, well, this is not only our desire, but that of other players, but it is scarce in the market. There are a few opportunities. Whenever an opportunity arises, we will look at it, of course, following the line that we followed for Cachoeira and Jari. We will see the quality of the assets, labor -- I think, labor qualification is fundamental, and that was a positive point in these 2 assets. We were able to maintain all of the employees that were already working there, bringing in the knowledge since the phase of conception until the beginning of operation. And we're adding ENGIE's knowledge to enhance the quality of these assets. We have to carry out an in-house analysis. And as I said, these assets are scarce in the market. There are not very many opportunities.
Adriana Wagner: Thank you, Guilherme. The next question comes from Bruno Oliveira, sell-side analyst. Two questions. Any planning on TAG, a possible partial sale in the horizon? And as part of your investment projects, any outlook for a dividend payout of 100%? Or is it too early for this discussion?
Pierre Gratien Leblanc: The answer is quite easy is no. Nothing planned in the very, very short term or short term or medium term for TAG. Depine, maybe you can take the second one.
Leonardo Depine: Well, regarding the dividends, for the time being, no, our indebtedness continues to grow somewhat above 3 at present and will further increase because of the 2 projects under construction until mid-2026. I think Bruno asked about this. It doesn't make sense for the time being to go back to 100% of payout with indebtedness above 3%. I think we had already referred to this in the second quarter as well.
Adriana Wagner: Very good. Thank you. To continue with the next question from Victor Brug, a sell-side analyst for JPMorgan. Any update in the revision of tariffs in the Northeast, TAG?
Leonardo Depine: Well, from TAG and the regulator itself, we have heard that this tariff revision should happen in the first half of the coming year. The last information is that this review will be carried out in 2 stages. They're going to work on work and the asset base. So this process will be displaced through June, perhaps will be concluded in June. This is the last statement we heard from the regulator. We shouldn't expect anything very concrete in the short term.
Adriana Wagner: Our next question comes from Bruno Vidal, sell-side analyst from XP Investments. Does the company have an outlook on participation in BP and which would be the modality, capital stock increase or increase of indebtedness?
Pierre Gratien Leblanc: So we are still studying this opportunity to prepay our UBP topic. We are waiting for the ANEEL calculation. And then we will have until beginning of December to discuss with ANEEL. And then ANEEL will give us if we are interested to prepay the deadline to do the cash out. How we will do it? So it will be probably now in '26, not in '25, is still under discussion inside EBE. We do have a lot of different options. Increase of capital may be one, but it's not the only one. So we will take and choose the best option for EBE to finance the prepayment if we decide to do it. I hope that as Depine said earlier, I hope that end of December during our Investor Day in Sao Paulo, we could give you more and more detail on that.
Leonardo Depine: Thank you very much. Our calculation in the time line, the payment should be until the end of March or the beginning of April. So we have the first quarter of 2026 to discuss these options.
Adriana Wagner: Our next question is from Lorena, sell-side analyst from Itaú BBA. Our trading strategy, which is the outlook of maintaining part of the portfolio uncontracted considering the price of energy in the coming years.
Leonardo Depine: I can answer that. If you could tell me the first part.
Adriana Wagner: Our trading strategy, which is the outlook of maintaining part of the portfolio uncontracted, considering our viewpoint on energy in coming years.
Leonardo Depine: We continue with that vision, with that strategy of having gradual uncontracting and we make tactical adjustments in terms of sales. This is the best for a company that is capital intensive and works with generation. We give ourselves the opportunity to make the most of higher prices in that long arm. Now we're thinking of year plus 1, year plus 2. We have future prices that are higher than years further ahead. So there is space for that long arm, while the market prices react in the upward position. It's important to make the most of contracting and not move away from this now. There's also a limit in liquidity in the market. So we can't contract everything on the spot with this very volatile price model, we know there are scenarios where the price will be much too low and spot prices will be low and we have to counterbalance our vision that there is room for future prices to improve vis-a-vis the risk in the short term, not allowing huge volume for the short term because we'll end up in the spot market. This is a bet, of course. Our profile is to have an appropriate management between results, our revenues and the risks that we take on. To summarize, we're going to continue following our broader strategy of gradually contracting future energy.
Adriana Wagner: Thank you very much. At this point, we would like to end the question-and-answer session. I will return the floor to our officers and Mr. Depine for their closing remarks.
Leonardo Depine: I would like to thank all of you for your attendance, and we hope to see you at our next events. We will meet at our event at the end of November, and we hope to have a better vision of the impacts of PM304. Thank you all very much. Have a good day, and we hope to see you in our next event.
Pierre Gratien Leblanc: Thank you all. See you in late November in Sao Paulo.
Adriana Wagner: We thank all of you for your attendance, the energy video conference and have a very good afternoon.