Earnings Call Transcripts
My Vu: [Presentation] Good morning, and a warm welcome to Hoegh Autoliners Fourth Quarter presentation. My name is My Linh Vu, Head of Investor Relations. And with me today, we have our CEO, Andreas Enger; and our CFO, Espen Stubberud, who will walk you through the last quarter business and financial performance. As usual, we will conclude the webcast with a Q&A session at the end of the presentation. So if you have any questions, please send an e-mail to our Investor Relations mailbox at ir@hoegh.com. So with that, I will leave it to you, Andreas.
Andreas Enger: Thank you, My Linh. And once again, welcome to our quarterly presentation, starting today with a picture of Hoegh Sunrise, one of our newbuild vessels that was named -- had celebrated its naming ceremony last summer with valued customers in the land of the Rising Sun. We are pleased to report another quarter, and this is also an end of the year with solid performance in -- I think in somewhat we could justifiably call a somewhat turbulent year on the macro side, but has still translated into very solid performance from our part. EBITDA for the quarter, $145 million, translating into net profit $105 million, gross rate of $91.4 million. And we are now back on our regular full payout dividend policy of which this quarter translates into $99 million. One more new build delivered in the quarter, a solid equity ratio of 55%. If you look at the year, $621 million of EBITDA and $513 million net profits delivered, gross rate of $93.4 million. We have declared for the year dividends of $424 million, maintaining our very solid dividend yield, taking delivery of 3 vessels, and we have a return on invested capital of 26%, all adding up, as I said, to very robust performance. I'm just going to go through some pieces on the market and sustainability and then hand over to Espen for capacity financial before we end up with an outlook for -- in the current quarter. On the market side, I think it's relevant to emphasize the importance of China and Chinese car exports for our industry and for the capacity balance and clearly being the driver for vessels running full and delivering the performance. Europe remains China's clearly largest export market, but we also see strong growth in other markets such as the Middle East and South America. So the export boom is broadening. The Chinese OEMs are almost doubling their market share in Europe in 2025, now surpassing American and Korean OEMs. So it's a very, very strong continued growth from China that is the main driver in development of our industry. And that goes across also the cargo segments. Clearly, the main driver from China is new vehicles, where China has established a clear position over the last few years as the dominant car exporter to the world, and that development is continuing at full force. Also importantly, we'll had some fairly soft development in the High & Heavy market over the last several years, but we are now seeing a change in that. But also that part is driven by a strong growth in the exports of construction equipment from China with other exporters being largely flat. Then let's turn to our contract backlog. In the quarter, we have increased the contract share of volumes transported up to 84%. That is a result of our strategy over the last years to prioritize duration and robustness of contracts over short-term profit rate optimization and clearly increasing the contract rate from 80% to 84% in the quarter is diluting to profit because we are actually leaving behind potential higher paid cargo to serve our customers as a part of our strategy. We believe that is a, what should I say, resilient, robust strategy in the current market, and we are pleased to continue to exercise that even if it then leaves out some opportunities to take higher paid cargo. The average duration of the contract backlog is 2.9 years, almost 3 years. We are basically sold out for 2026, also have a very strong contract backlog into 2027. We have added $250 million of contracts during Q4, though being contracts below the $100 million threshold individually for separate reporting, but there's still been a solid contract inflow during the quarter. And when it comes to the 29% of contracts that are up for renewal during 2026, those are -- 80% of those are with customers that has been with us for 10 years. So it's with very solid customer relationships where we basically expect good opportunities to renew most of or all of those. And then obviously, we have the other ones which we talked about, the rate agreements, which are noncommitting agreements where we have clients in a structure where we unfortunately have had to do a little less of taking low paid cargo. And just on the spot volumes, which is a small share of it, but I just also want to emphasize that our spot business is primarily High & Heavy or break bulk business where the volume of sort of individual lots and spot cargo is larger. So 70% of the spot volume is in the High & Heavy segment. On the sustainability side, we are with the introduction of our new builds, delivering strong improvements on our carbon intensity. And this is to the story we have around our Aurora-class vessels that are delivering substantially better carbon performance also on fossil fuel and so on that side, it is the Aurora class primarily that is driving our improvements. But we also had a fairly intensive docking cycle during the last year, and we do have extensive energy efficiency improvements scheduled for all our dry dockings of legacy vessels. So it's a combination of continuous improvement of energy efficiency on our legacy fleet and introduction of very carbon-efficient newbuilds. We also have certified 4 of the Aurora class vessels during the quarter for shore connection. So we are stepping up shore power as a source of reducing auxiliary engine use and carbon emissions in port. Then I'll leave it to Espen for capacity and financials.
Espen Stubberud: Yes. Turning to the capacity market. We've had a couple of years now with a relatively strong fleet growth. We had 75 vessels delivered during 2025 and 13% fleet growth. So despite quite a large number of ships being delivered, the charter market remains strong, although the pricing is down from the elevated levels seen in '23 and '24, the pricing is still relatively expensive and has been stabilizing and moving flat over the last few months. And in fact, into January this year, pricing is up. So there are no idling ships. The capacity market is firm. And if you want to add a few ships over the next few months, there are very, very few candidates. Turning to the financial update. As Andreas already said, 2025 was another strong year for Hoegh Autoliners. Despite U.S. tariffs, despite U.S. port fees, despite increasing imbalance in our system and not the least the growth in the net fleet. EBITDA came in at $621 million, that's down from 2024. Two main drivers. One is reduced rate and one is -- the other one is increased charter costs. The rate is down about $5, as we can see here, from $85 net to about $80 year-over-year. That's following our strategy of adding to our contract backlog, taking on more contract business, long-term agreements, which has increased the share of contract business from 73% in '24 to 82% in 2025. The increased charter cost comes from overall growth in volume. We increased total volume by 10%, but increased volume out of Asia by 40% year-over-year, and that comes with added charter costs. Turning to the quarter. The Q4 volume came in at 3.9 million cubic meter. That's down 2% on quarter-on-quarter. That's following us having 2 vessels fewer in operation. We redelivered 2 ships in the third quarter to long-term charters, and we also sold 1 vessel. So this -- we had 2 ships fewer in operation. That's just a quarterly impact as we had, as Andreas said, another newbuild delivered in December and also one very early in January. We've seen very strong demand from contract clients, as Andreas alluded to, also towards the year-end, which has increased the share of contract cargo in the fourth quarter and is reducing the rate by close to 2%. EBITDA came in at $145 million. That's down $10 quarter-on-quarter, $5 million is related to USTR cost, while the remaining $5 million is sort of a net impact of lower activity and somewhat lower rates. It looks like net profit is down 21% quarter-on-quarter. Just as a reminder, we sold 1 vessel then in the third quarter. So the third quarter net profit before tax includes $20 million from selling that ship. Adjusting for that, the net profit before tax is down 7%. Looking at the EBITDA bridge quarter-on-quarter, you can see the drop in volume following fewer operating days and marginally lower rates. Lower activity comes with lower fuel costs and also lower voyage costs. However, in this quarter, the lower voyage cost was fully offset by the USTR cost, which is booked under voyage expenses, leaving us with $145 million in the fourth quarter. We have a strong balance sheet with healthy ratios and stable ratios. Net debt-to-EBITDA still at 1x, equity ratio of 55%, moving flat, and we ended the year with $299 million in cash, somewhat up from previous quarters following the change in dividend calculation that we announced in the last quarter. We also had close to $200 million in liquidity reserves at the end of the year from a revolver. That revolver was originally maturing in the first quarter of '28 and have been extended by 2 years. So we end the year with $299 million, and we have decided to pay out cash in excess of $200 million, meaning we'll pay out $99 million in dividends in March, and we now paid out $90 per share. Then I think we're at the outlook, Andreas?
Andreas Enger: We're coming to the outlook section. And very briefly, what we have seen last year and what we still see is that demand for ocean transportation and car carriers remain strong, supported primarily by increasing demands from Asia. When it comes to the discussions going on around the Red Sea and the Middle East, there is no return to the Red Sea transit planned for the near future. The risk level is still considered high, and we are observing, but not planning to act on that in the near term. And for the first quarter 2026, somewhat also driven by, as I said, two newbuild deliveries right in December and early January of this year, getting into operation, meaning that we now have the first 8 of our Aurora-class newbuilds in operation and performing very well, helping us to a slightly increased -- expectation of a slightly increased EBITDA in first quarter of 2026 over the fourth quarter of '25. That ends our presentation. And then I think we'll leave it to My Linh to manage questions from the audience. Thank you.
My Vu: Thank you, Andreas. And we have received a few questions from our online audience during the webcast. And the first question is relating to our capacity planning. So that the company has planned to sell further older ships during 2026. Do the companies have the plan to sell further older ships during 2026?
Andreas Enger: I don't think we -- I mean, I think we are continuously looking at what to do with our fleet composition, but we don't have any immediate plans for selling vessels. And I'm not -- I wouldn't -- I don't think we would guide anything on that because vessel sales are also, I think, in this market triggered by opportunistic situations. But we are clearly committed to fleet renewal and energy efficiency. So we -- I think it's fair to say that with our newbuild program, we have a strong preference from larger, modern, more efficient and more carbon-efficient vessels over what is the dominant sort of legacy fleet in our market.
My Vu: Thank you, Andreas. And the next question. We have talked a lot in 2025 about the structural trade imbalance that has negatively affecting our operating costs. Can we comment a little bit, do you see any improvement in this point for 2026?
Espen Stubberud: Yes. I think we've had a history in our company to try to fill ships in both directions, and we've been doing that successfully for a number of years. We saw -- starting 2024, we saw that we had a slight imbalance, meaning we ballasted about 1 ship per month from the Atlantic and back to Asia. And as we've talked many times, we've seen very, very strong growth in Asia over time with obviously China as the main driver. And the growth we've taken and seen over the last year of 40% means that all the growth is coming in Asia and the volumes coming back is somewhat in decline, meaning that the imbalance has increased quite a bit. So the balancing activity is up 2.5x year-over-year. So -- and I think that's a theme for all operators. I don't think we see any change to that into '26. So we expect that imbalance that we've seen in '25 to be about the same in '26.
My Vu: Thank you, Espen. Yes. And the next set of questions coming from analyst Petter Haugen, ABG. First, about our outlook. Can you say more about slightly above in the guidance for Q1?
Andreas Enger: No, I think we mean slightly above.
My Vu: Yes. And the next question is about the full year guiding. So one about, the company and our segment guides for full year EBITDA. Why we do -- we choose not to guide for the full year?
Andreas Enger: We basically -- if you look at the world around us, we believe that guiding for a full year is mostly speculative, and we don't engage in speculation.
My Vu: Yes. And for our new building plan, we have put today about 12 vessels on order. Are we contemplating further new builds?
Andreas Enger: We have -- I think I said repeatedly that we consider these 12 vessels to be the current program. Clearly, if you look into our 2040 and 2050 objectives, I'm sure there will be further newbuilds in there. But currently, there are none in our plans.
My Vu: Thank you, Andreas. Yes. And also from this -- in this quarterly presentation, we also updated our contract backlog, including renewals for 2027. Can we comment anything about the expected duration or rates for the 29% contract renewal in 2027?
Andreas Enger: No, I don't think so. But I think we are experiencing strong demand for contracts, the typical sort of duration of contracts, I guess, in our industry has been sort of 3 to 5 years for the longer contracts. And I think we are likely to be in that territory. But that is -- it's a bit individual contract by contract, and it's something that we -- and these are things that we haven't even started negotiations. But I think we said in our presentation that the -- most of the contracts that we are going to have renewal negotiations in 2026 are long-term customers. They stayed with us for a long time. So it is -- we are negotiating with companies where we have a long-term relationship.
My Vu: Thank you, Andreas. And one of the topic that we talk a lot about in the last quarterly presentation in the next question from our investor online. So with the current -- for now, the USTR port fees on pause until November 2026. What are our view about how much EBIT coming back in November? How much do you think we can pass this on to our customers?
Andreas Enger: I think I said a few minutes ago that we're not engaging in speculation. And I think that having any view on that now is highly speculative. What I would say is that closely following, working through relevant challenge to understand, respond to -- and if there is any possibility, particularly together with our customers, including U.S. customers that will be hurt by some of those fees. We are working actively with the matter, but I think we're pretty far from one thing to speculate on the outcome.
My Vu: Thank you, Andreas. And we mentioned in light of the strong China export demand ongoing, we also have that comment in our outlook. What is the management latest view whether the car carrier order book is still too big?
Andreas Enger: I think -- I mean, I think what we observe is that the current -- I mean, the order book so far, counter to most expectations have been absorbed very well, and we see it continue to be absorbed well. And so in that sense, I think the view that the order book was far too big is becoming maybe challenged by realities. But -- and I think the answer to that question will -- is basically based on a forward view on Chinese exports. And what we see from our customers is that they have the capacity, they have quality products and they have attractive price points. If the Chinese are allowed to continue their export growth, you will continue to get good absorption of capacity.
My Vu: Thank you, Andreas. Yes. And we also received a lot of questions. I think some of the questions already covered previously by other audience. So I will just read the question that is new on the topic that we haven't seen. So in 2025, Hoegh Auto actually charter-in a few vessels. How do we see that in 2026? Do we see more TCE opportunities to enter the fleet? Or are we comfortable with the current fleet? I think for you, Espen.
Espen Stubberud: Yes. No, as we talked to, we took on some new business out of Asia at the end of 2024, and we've been supporting that new business volume with some charter-in activity. particularly after deliveries of the newbuilds, and we had 2 newbuilds delivered just before the summer, and we have very recently just had 2 more delivered. So we've been planning for that capacity to come in, and we've been supporting that volume growth this year with extra capacity. And I think as we talked to the imbalance, I think that will be stable from '25 to '26. We have now 2 more newbuilds coming in fully in operation in the first quarter. So that should reduce the charter-in activity. Having said that, we think we'll also use the capacity market opportunistically with short-term charters, typically between 3 months and 12 months to some level also in 2026.
My Vu: Thank you, Espen. And I guess that bring us to the end of the Q&A session today. Thank you very much for tuning in, and we look forward to see you next time. Thank you.