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Operator: Welcome to the Trelleborg Q3 2025 report presentation. [Operator Instructions] Now I will hand the conference over to CEO, Peter Nilsson; and CFO, Fredrik Nilsson. Please go ahead.
Peter Nilsson: Hello, everybody. Peter Nilsson speaking. Welcome all of you to this Q3 of 2025 results. What we're going to give you some of our, let's say, input on how the quarter developed. Joining me on this call is also Fredrik Nilsson, our Group CFO; and also Christofer Sjögren, who is heading our Investor Relations. So as usual, we're going to refer to a slide deck from our web page. And then on that, turning to Page 2 on that section, the agenda slide and a normal starting with some general highlights, some comments on the business areas, and then Fredrik's going to guide us through the financials and then finishing off with a summary and some comments on the outlook for the running quarter. And then finally, ending our call with a Q&A session. So that's the agenda for this call this morning. Turning then to Page 3. Heading of our report, organic growth with higher margin. So a solid quarter in more or less all aspects, the development in the right direction in more or less all aspects, sales ending up relatively flat compared to last year in Swedish krona, an increase of 1%. But behind this, a very solid organic growth, plus 4%, which is something we have not seen for quite some time. M&A also benefiting. We have done several acquisitions, several smaller bolt-on acquisitions here in the last 12 months. And that is, of course, also bringing in some sales. So that is adding 3%. And then we have a currency headwind, well known by everybody, which is 6% in the quarter, which is then once again ending up with a 1% on the total sales. EBITDA also up and also with an improved margin, which is an all-time high margin and results for the third quarter. We are, let's say, a notch above 18% EBITDA margin in the quarter. And this is, as I already said, it's a stronger third quarter to date for us, both in terms of profit and margins. So solid. And I mean, the great thing, you're going to see later also is coming from all business areas. We have a substantial negative FX on EBITDA, almost SEK 100 million or SEK 90 million, bringing us in the wrong direction, if you may say. Items affecting comparability running as planned, relatively high level this year, but also coming from this rather high number of acquisitions, which is then kind of creating opportunities to improve the structure and then make sure we get all the benefits from these acquisitions as we move forward. Cash flow, very strong. I mean, we have to admit, surprisingly strong ending of the quarter on the cash flow, which, of course, is going to bounce back a little bit here in Q4. But nevertheless, we are happy to have the money in our pockets instead of sitting somewhere else. So very solid cash flow, which is, of course, yes, creating a stronger balance sheet and overall, a better business. We've done a smaller acquisition, small but important acquisition in Singapore called Masterseals, which is an acquisition which is strengthening a little bit, oil and gas markets and generally more in the kind of aftermarket-related segments of Sealing Solutions, which is an area which we are developing at the moment, an area we're growing into kind of a global business for us. Also note, continued share buyback on a level slightly north of SEK 500 million being spent on share buybacks in the quarter. So this is the quarter. This is what it is. And I mean, overall, once again, a solid quarter. So turning then to the next page, Page 4, where you see new slide for us, which I hope you will give some more input on the sales split per geography, which I don't going to comment that much on. But we also, more importantly, we see organic growth in all 3 major geographical areas, with Europe for us being the softest, slightly better in Americas, 5% organic growth in Americas, which is kind of on a high level, driven a little bit by project deliveries, but that's the way it is. But nevertheless, good solid quarter and a very solid quarter also for Asia, then particularly strong in China for us. But overall, strong in Asia and kind of a little bit bounce back in Americas and then Europe a little bit softer. So this is the -- and in all areas or levels, which, I mean, we have not seen for some time, especially if you talk both Americas and Europe while Asia continues on a good level, as you've seen throughout the year for Trelleborg. Turning to Page 5, the agenda slide, business areas and then quickly turning to Page 6 with some more detailed comments on Industrial Solutions, organic growth and we say stable margin, a slight uptick in margin. Organic sales 2%; M&A, adding 4%. And then, of course, also, as others here, a negative exchange rate of some 6%. Also behind these figures, we see oil and gas project declined in the quarter, sales declined in the quarter, but that is mainly due to a rather tough year-on-year comparison. Overall market still developing well and a very solid cash flow. But some of these sales is rather project heavy. It is that it sometimes goes a little up a little bit and sometimes it will be down and this quarter was a little bit down in the sales, but it's not -- once again, it's not a reflection of overall lower activity in this part of the business. Construction industry is still muted but we noted satisfaction that is getting slightly better if you look sequentially, although still, let's say, quite strong decline if we compare year-on-year. But once again, some light in the tunnel and some improvements kicking in. Automotive sales increased in the quarter. I mean it's been a little bit -- how should I say a little bit strange quarter, if I may say, for automotive. Those of you following automotive, you see that it's still relatively tough sales in Europe and North America, while China was extraordinary in the quarter, which as I said, 10% plus organic growth. And I mean, the business that we have in Industrial Solutions has a very good market share in China. And that is where we benefit from this. So we have actually a strong development in automotive within Industrial Solutions in this quarter. And then EBITDA and margin improved slightly. I mean Industrial Solutions is a fairly diverse business, and there are some ups and downs always. But overall, we continue to move in the right direction. We continue to improve. It's not major steps. It's a hard work coming from kind of operational focus and also some of the structural investment, structural improvements kicking in. Overall, a good quarter, well managed in more or less all aspects. And then we also should note that when we look at the margin here, this acquisitions that we've been doing is on a lower margin than the overall, and we have some tens of a percent negative kicking in for that. It could be -- I don't know, looking at Fredrik, 0.3%, 0.5% on the margin actually coming from kind of this acquisition kicking in and it will take us a year or so before we can get them back to the overall margin of Industrial Solutions. But that is also something that you need to note when you look at the margin development within Industrial Solutions. Turning to Page 7. Trelleborg Medical Solutions, strong organic sales growth. Organic sales is up by 13%. M&A, not doing any changes, so 0 impact from that. But we have to note here as well that we have some project deliveries related to one of our major customers, which is, let's say, boosting the sales dramatically -- in the sales. I mean, if you look underlying and try to kind of neglect these organic sales, I mean the more correct probably underlying organic sales is more in the kind of mid-single-digit territory. Medtech sales, we see also medtech sales in Europe developing well. North America, where we still -- struggle is the wrong word, but we still see some negative development where we still have some inventory issues. We don't see the overall activity going down, but we still see our sales is a little bit below where it should be. So we are pretty certain that we're still impacted by inventory reductions especially in North America, which we have been for some time, and we honestly, we believe that it's going to turn the corner, but we see it continuous. It is difficult to really see through exactly when it will turn, but we continue to gain business. We continue to gain orders, and we are overall satisfied with the development, even though the sales, we would like to sell more, of course, in Americas as well going forward. Life Science, which is kind of the smaller segment of medical, is developing, if I may say, very nice, and we are growing that. And we are starting -- we have been investing in that segment with new factories, both in North America and in Europe, and with satisfaction, we see that these investments is slowly, let's say, benefiting us, and that is an area also where we see continued growth going forward. EBIT margin up and also, let's say, in absolute terms, we have EBITDA up. I mean there's higher volumes, as you expect, but also continuous structure improvements, especially starting to benefit from -- continuing to benefit from this acquisition of Baron that was made, let's say, a year ago now. Turning then to Page 8, Sealing Solutions. If I may say, very solid organic growth in the quarter coming from several areas. But I mean, if I should highlight something, it's really that we have underlying kind of industrials, the big kind of industrial segment of TSS is starting to do better. We see now growth in Europe kicking in. Asia continued on a good level, which has been good for us for quite some time. We continue to see some weakness in North America. But overall, these core segments of Sealing Solutions improved in the quarter. Both in sales and also kind of a higher activity level. Automotive for TSS is still below last year, particularly still impacted by, let's say, very soft development, very soft development in the aftermarket business. And we cannot -- I mean, it's not like the aftermarket in itself is down. It's more that we see very, let's say, uncertainty, especially in the North American market, this is -- we see that they are downsizing. In stock, inventories is down, and we do expect it to kick back. But also here, we don't know exactly when, but it is kind of we are supplying substantially below the market demand for a few quarters here, and we do expect that to bounce back eventually. We note in automotive here as well as we also commented on TSS, a very good development in China. We have a good market share for some of the products, in TSS, especially that's our shim business, our brake business has a solid market share in China. And of course, we are benefiting from that as the Chinese market has been developing very, very good in the quarter. Aerospace, very strong all over. We continue to, let's say, get more orders than we sell. So let's say, order book is growing and the activity level is growing. Of course, we note, as a trusted -- the ones of you was following aerospace that's about Airbus and Boeing is very ambitious in the growth plans going forward, and we, of course, do our best to follow that. So good development in aerospace. And overall, this means that EBITDA and margin is improving, higher production volumes kicking in. We have been underproducing for some time. And we see also the benefits from the operational improvements, but we also have to note also here we have a negative impact from acquisitions being made, which is kind of the same dimension as we see in Industrial Solutions, some 0.3%, 0.5% negative impact on the margin if we were trying to kind of adjust for the acquisitions. But we're doing the acquisitions, of course, because we believe they are good for us and they are improving the business overall, but it will take some time to get all business improvements into the margin. Already commented on the Masterseals acquisition in Singapore that is part of small acquisition, but it's part of an overall game plan to strengthen our activity within, let's say, aftermarket for seals and especially related to oil and gas and mining and other segments, which is more kind of project-related where you need, to say, local presence in order to get this business into our books. So that's -- we're happy to be that, and we think it's a good strategic add-on, although once again on a very minor level compared to the overall sales of Trelleborg. Turning to Page 9, some comments on sustainability, continue to improve substantially. I mean, we say here, we are not getting to the end of the game, but we are getting down to levels of CO2 emissions from our Scope 1 and Scope 2, which is kind of becoming very low. We're, of course, going to continue to improve. We continue to do better also in this aspect. But I mean, do not expect these kind of improvements steps going forward. Next page, Page 10 and it's basically the same here, where we have a substantial tick up in share of renewable and fossil-free electricity. We are now up to 92%. And I mean the remainder here is very difficult because in some geographies, you actually cannot get it, and we are getting also here to a situation where we cannot improve that much anymore to you on this because we are, let's say, stopped either but by very major investments to turn it around or that is simply not available in a few geographies. So very good development, very happy to show this. There was continued good development in sustainability, and we are doing good in these aspects. And I mean, once again, the focus -- we cannot improve on this criteria. So the focus going forward will be more smaller steps and more kind of what we call say, energy excellence programs. We'll be working hard with all the factories in order to improve and to do better in more minor aspects. So these big steps, you will not see these big steps going forward, but we're getting to a situation. I don't say it being perfect, but we're getting to a level where we cannot justify the final steps to get it even better. Turning then to agenda slide again, Page 11, financials on Page 12. I'll leave it over to Fredrik to guide us through this section.
Fredrik Nilsson: Thank you, Peter. Let's then start on Page 12, looking at the sales development. Reported net sales increased by 1% from SEK 8.442 billion to EUR 8.532 billion. We have organic sales growth in all 3 business areas in total 4%. Structural changes added 3% growth in the quarter. And then as Peter mentioned, we have negative translation effects that reduced growth by 6% during the quarter. If we then move to Page 13, showing historical sales growth. In the third quarter, we were close to our sales growth targets, achieving 7% sales growth at constant FX. Looking at Page 14, showing the quarterly sales and rolling 12 for continuing operations. The sales in the quarter, as I said, reached SEK 8.5 billion at net rolling 12 months, it's reached SEK 34.7 billion. Moving on to Page 15, looking at the EBITA and the EBITA margin, that continued to improve further. EBITA excluding items affecting comparability, increased by 5% to SEK 1.541 billion in the third quarter. We saw profit growth in all 3 business areas. And looking at -- we start with Industrial Solutions, which was up 1% in EBITA due to operational structure improvements, which was partly offset by negative translation effects. And then Medical Solutions, up 10% in the quarter. And then finally, Sealing Solutions was up 6% in the quarter due to higher production volumes and operational improvements. And margin-wise, we rose from 17.3% up to 18.1%, supported by the organic volume growth and the operational improvements. Looking at then the EBITA and EBITA margin on a rolling 12 months basis. EBITA amounted to SEK 6.331 billion with a margin of 18.2% and EBITA has been growing with 6% during the last 12 months. Moving on to profit and loss statement. Looking into some more details in the income statements, items that are affecting comparability, SEK 72 million in the quarter, which was entirely related to restructuring costs for adjusting our cost base and due to the recent acquisition. Financial net I would say, on par compared to last year, SEK 126 million compared to SEK 128 million. This is actually despite that the debt level is higher this year. So that is also a good achievement. Tax rate for the quarter, excluding items affecting comparability, amounted to 26%, a slight increase due to timing. Page 18, earnings per share, excluding items affecting comparability, amounted to SEK 4.20 in the quarter and increased by 11%, and that was due to the higher profitability and the effect of the ongoing share buyback program. And for the group, including items affecting comparability, earnings per share were up SEK 3.94, also 11% up. Moving on to Page 19. As Peter mentioned, we have a very strong cash flow in the quarter, which reached SEK 1.741 billion. On a high level, half of the improvement came from the higher EBITDA and the rest from efficient management of the working capital. CapEx is well aligned with the communicated guidelines for the full year but marginally higher than Q3 last year. Moving on to Page 20, the cash flow conversion. The cash flow conversion was 92%. So we continue to deliver a high cash conversion ratio. Moving on Page 21, the gearing and the leverage development. Net debt at the end of the quarter at SEK 8.280 billion. Share buyback during the quarter was SEK 554 million, ended the quarter with a debt-to-equity ratio at 22%. So small improvement compared to Q2. And then net debt in relation to EBITDA, 1.1, which was slightly higher than year-end. But of course, we have also paid out a dividend during the second quarter, and we have continued the share buyback program. In other words, our balance sheet remains strong. Moving on to Page 22, return on capital employed reached 12% for the quarter, and our capital employed has increased compared to last year mainly due to the acquisitions, but I think also I would like to note that our return on capital employed has sequentially increased for Q2 to Q3. And then finally, the financial guidelines for 2025, unchanged compared to what we communicated after our second quarter CapEx, SEK 1.650 billion for the full year, restructuring costs around SEK 500 million for the full year as well. Amortization of intangibles, SEK 650 million and underlying tax rate for the full year around 25%. And by that, I would like to hand back the microphone to Peter.
Peter Nilsson: Thank you. Agenda slide, summary and outlook. Quickly turning to Page 25. Looking at the quarter, organic growth with higher margins, good quarter overall, but it picked out a few highlights. We see in the quarter in improved -- generally an improved demand, higher activity levels or continued high activity level in some areas. We see an improvement in that. And we also note with satisfaction, of course, that all our 3 business areas recorded organic growth in the quarter, which has been quite some time since we saw that the last time. So overall, better activity, although not kind of a big jump upwards. But nevertheless, improvements in most areas. We also note that these higher sales is also improving our margins. We have a fairly sizable uptick in the margin year-on-year. And it then boils down to the strongest quarter -- strongest third quarter to date, both in terms of profit and margin. We also note that we continue to do value -- what we call value-adding M&A, although impact, this is our 10th bolt-on acquisitions since Q3 last year. And of course, this is a high activity level in [indiscernible] we said before, is impacting our margin negatively in Sealing Solutions and Industrial Solutions, but we are, at the same time, improving our overall positions, and we are very certain that this -- when that's fully integrated, there will not be a drain on the margin or rather the opposite, but it takes some time to get there. And we also note that continue buybacks, we continue to have a solid balance sheet, which is, let's say, allowing us both to continue on high CapEx level, continue to do M&A, continue to absorb the growth, which is in the quarter in terms of working capital, but also on top of that, we also continue to do share buybacks. So that was the summary and then turning to -- for the last quarter and then turning to Page 26 and some outlook. We expect the demand to remain on this level. For those of you who have read the reports see that we have this extraordinary sales or project sales within medical, we were not going to kick in. So with this outlook, you should read it that the continued overall demand, we might be -- we don't know exactly, as we otherwise were sitting exactly where we end up. But of course, we believe that this is probably not going to be of north of 4% in the next quarter, but we could be a 1 percentage point or some lower than 4%, but we believe it's going to be on a similar level. And I mean if this continued higher activity level, remain, then we will look with more positivism on the future. But with this comment, of course, also, we all know there is a big year -- still a big, what we call political situation or geopolitical challenges out there and things might happen, which could impact the demand short term. So that is, of course, with this comment on the continued good market, it comes with this kind of comment. And then turning to Page 27 agenda and into the final agenda point and turning to Page 28 and opening up for questions.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Alexander Jones from BofA.
Alexander Jones: If I can have two please. The first on Sealing Solutions and specifically the Industrial business within that, you talked about higher growth this quarter. Could you help us understand was that broad-based or the particular end markets within Industrial driving that? And to what extent was that the end market improving or more market share gains and innovation success that you've had as Trelleborg? And then the second question, if I can, just on the Medical business. Can I clarify on the one-off project sales this quarter. Is there any element there have pulled forward that will be reversed in future quarters? Or is that just sort of one-off extra sales that we should not extrapolate in our future numbers?
Peter Nilsson: Alexander, talking -- starting with the medical one, I mean that is really a startup of a new program for one of our customers, which is a one-off delivery. So it's not really about impacting the future. So it's not kind of a pull from any future sales. It's simply sales in the quarter due to the [indiscernible] starting new programs. So that is kind of the way it is sometimes, but it's not kind of any forward buying or something, it's simply a one-off sales. So nothing really that we need -- we don't expect it to -- yes, to impact the sales going forward. So that's it. And then if you talk about Industrial, I mean, one thing is also on the industrial sales of Sealing, which you've seen in the quarter, I mean we have been, for quite a few quarters, talking about destocking in these activities. So one of the impacts in the quarter is no more destocking, and we are kind of supplying in line with underlying demand. I mean, so that is one of the impacts. But we don't see still as an inventory buildup, but we still believe that there is supplying. But we are not kind of oversupplying in the way that they are building stock. And I mean -- and the core driver for this is kind of the biggest subsegment, if I say in Sealing, which is more hydraulics, machinery and this kind of core industrial business. That is where we see the improvements. So we're not surprised, I shouldn't say we're surprised because it's been undersupplying for a few quarters. And now we feel that we're supplying in line with the overall demand. So I don't know whether that is enough for you.
Alexander Jones: Yes, that's very helpful. .
Operator: The next question comes from Agnieszka Vilela from Nordea.
Agnieszka Vilela: So I have a few questions, maybe starting with the first one on the growth trajectory in the quarter, if you could share any flavor of how was development in September? And then also, how is it progressing in October? And then also, Peter, I think before you used to refer to your order intake. So how is that developing right now for you?
Peter Nilsson: I mean there was an improvement throughout the quarter, but also the trick on Q3 September is always important. Since the other 2 months is a little bit impacted by vacation period. So it was kind of an acceleration in the quarter, so a stronger ending than beginning in the quarter, but we don't, let's say, put too much emphasis on that one. But it is kind of an improvement in the quarter, if I may say. And October, I mean, we don't see any kind of differences and we don't really want to comment on it. So it's really overall guidance remains that we believe is going to be same growth in Q4 with, let's say, some adjustments coming from this extraordinary sales in Medical. So my read this, I mean it might be 4, it might be 3. But I mean, we don't really know. We have an overall good order intake. We have overall good activity level. I mean, we should say book-to-bill in the quarter is positive. We have booked more orders in Q3 than we have been selling. So we are growing the order book. But we also remain a little bit cautious on this because we know there is inventory focus, cash flow focus on some customers. So we don't really want to read too much into it. But if we simply did the Excel sheet calculation, then of course, we will, let's say, be more positive than negative in that one. I don't know whether that is enough, Agnieszka.
Agnieszka Vilela: Yes, yes, absolutely. But then maybe if you could give us some color on the regional development as well. Obviously, you have -- you have had very strong development in Asia, now followed by Americas, Europe also now slightly positive. In the next few quarters, do you expect any changes to this order like any other -- any region taking over?
Peter Nilsson: No. I mean I think Asia, little bit, has been a little bit extraordinary strong, especially in automotive since we have this big boost. I can't remember exactly, but I think production levels in China for automotive was up by some 12%, 13%. So that's, of course, since we have a high -- good position with a few of our automotive segment, that is benefiting us, but also the overall industrial development in Asia, especially in China has been good for us, somewhat difficult to fully understand, to be honest, but it's been ongoing for quite a few quarters, and we do not expect that to be -- of course, comps getting more difficult going forward. But nevertheless, a good development in there. Europe is probably more tricky in a way to read. But we see -- I mean, in the core, as I commented before, the core Industrial segments of TSS is improving. And that is more -- part of it is a reflection that no more destocking and more of kind of delivery in line with underlying demand. We do not see any kind of inventory buildup at the moment, and that is, of course, if it turns more positive, we will see that as well. So we've been undersupplying for a few quarters. We do expect as the market -- if the markets turn more positive that we will be oversupplying. But we don't really see that happening short term. But if you go into early next year and this development continues, we're probably going to have some of that. U.S. is probably, for us, a little bit more positive than it should be because we have a few project deliveries in U.S., which is kind of impacting the sales there. But nevertheless, let's say, for us, a good positive territory also coming there from kind of hydraulics and the pneumatic segments, which is also a part of our core business in North America for Sealing. I guess that is -- I don't know, Fredrik, if you want to elaborate. I think that is kind of just to be a little bit more color for that development.
Agnieszka Vilela: That's very helpful. And then the last one from me. I noticed that you didn't really mention the tariff impact in your report or in your presentation. Was there any kind of growth tariffs now affecting you in the quarter and how are you mitigating those?
Peter Nilsson: We have a few individual businesses where we need to kind of redo the supply chain and working with that. But I mean, overall, this kind of minor activity. So that is why we don't see that as a kind of impacting us. We have a very regional setup. We have as I said, manufacturing in Asia, we have manufacturing in Europe, we have manufacturing in the U.S., and we don't really have a lot of these flows going across. I mean, the challenge here is more the metal content where we need to find out. We have a few products, but we have metal content, and that is something where we need to work. And that is also our question going forward on these tariffs in Europe because some of the export business from Europe into other territories might be impacted by that. But it kind of remains an action point and that is something we're working on. But overall, on a group level, we don't see this at any topic in a way, to be honest. Underlying demand could be impacted, I mean to say. But I mean for our trading and margins, it's not really something that we discuss too much.
Operator: The next question comes from Forbes Goldman from Pareto Securities.
Forbes Goldman: Yes. One question on the TSS margin, which was quite strong here in the quarter. Is this the start of a sustained recovery there? And how are you thinking about the 23% target from here? What do you sort of need to reach it?
Peter Nilsson: No. I mean it is a solid, let's say, step in the right direction. Looking at the margin, of course, once again, you need to remind yourself as well that we have also a negative impact from the acquisitions. Of course, it is a step up compared to last year. And we have always said that we're going to get this back to our levels and is kind of step in that direction. And then I don't want to guide exactly what kind of quarter, but it is coming as expected, as planned, if I may say, this margin expansion coming from a little bit bounce back in our core segments of TSS. I mean that is what we've been waiting for. Once again, we refer to this kind of fluid power, hydraulics, pneumatics, that segment, which is the major part of Sealing Solutions, and that is the area which is going to drive this improvement by extra volumes. And also in that extra volumes in the right areas, if I may say, because it's also driving kind of a positive mix within Sealing Solutions. So this is a step in the right direction, and we still have the kind of overall objective to get back to this, say, '22, '23, '24. I mean that is where we want it to be. And we are fairly certain that we are moving in that direction.
Forbes Goldman: Great. I have a follow-up on that. TSS margins are typically seasonally weaker during the second half of the year. So could you maybe just say anything directionally about Q4?
Peter Nilsson: No, we don't want to do. I mean, we are moving in the right direction, and we are -- of course. I mean TSS is more, should I say, consumable where we supply into the supply chains of a large number of industrial customers. And I mean there is always Christmas breaks and all of that. So it's always a bit softer by the end of the year depending on the activity level that they're planning for after the holidays. And that is the same seasonality as we always have. So it's -- I don't know if we can comment any more on that. I don't think so. I mean that is the way it is.
Forbes Goldman: Final follow-up. On the restructuring cost, it looks like quite a big step-up here into Q4. Anything in particular happening there?
Fredrik Nilsson: No, nothing really. It's more a timing. So there are some projects that we have worked with for a while, and that will be booked as restructuring costs during the fourth quarter.
Operator: The next question comes from Hampus Engellau from Handelsbanken.
Hampus Engellau: Could we discuss organic growth on the group level and I guess also in Sealing Solutions, if you would remove Automotive, just to get a sense on how the underlying ex autos is moving, given that we have an opinion on autos going forward?
Peter Nilsson: Automotive in Sealing Solutions was not positive. So that is something where we -- because they are severely hit, but they are hit by specialist aftermarket dropped for our brake business. So that is kind of negative. So I mean, if you neglect for Automotive, in Sealing Solutions, is actually going to be even better. So that is the one. We are benefiting from the China OE sales, but that is in no way compensating for the drop in the aftermarket business. But for TSS, I mean it's not a major impact, to be honest, but there is a slight positive in Industrial Solutions in this -- what we call our boots business, where we have a very strong market share in China as well. So that is where we are benefiting. But I mean it's neglectable in a way if you look at Industrial because it's not a major business of Industrial Solutions, but it is positive. So that's one. So the underlying kind of non-automotive organic growth in Sealing Solutions is actually slightly better.
Hampus Engellau: Excellent. And do you bear giving some indications on how you see autos -- autos part in Sealing maybe for Q4. I guess you presume you're looking at the S&P numbers and also have an opinion on aftermarket?
Peter Nilsson: On the aftermarket -- sorry, your...
Hampus Engellau: Yes. I guess on fetching for if you're expecting some contribution in Q4.
Peter Nilsson: To be honest on that, we are a little bit surprised that it continued on this low level. It's not that people are kind of changing less brakes. And the only thing we can read into this that there is where we have some carriers, we have some metal content in those and some of our aftermarket customers are kind of reluctant to build. Also, when they order from us in Europe, and we are sending to U.S., it takes 6 to 8 weeks. And it seems like they are not buying, they're not speculating. But of course, the stock is going down and eventually, they need to fill it up. So that is -- I mean, where we are a little bit surprised, to be honest, about this rather dramatic drop in aftermarket, which is not -- I mean, it's not that either that they can buy from anybody else. They need to buy from us and because we are specified and we are kind of regional equipment suppliers, and so that is kind of a strange, which we have now seen for 2, 3 quarters -- 2, 3 quarters. So that is something where we don't fully understand. I mean sometimes you try to understand, but sometimes you cannot get the right answers, but it cannot continue on that. I mean, let's put it, you cannot continue on that level, unless people are neglecting, not changing brakes anymore.
Operator: The next question comes from Timothy Lee from Barclays.
Timothy Lee: I have a follow-up question on margin. So for Sealing Solutions, there's definitely a very good margin development in the quarter. Can I also say that it is implying some synergies that you get finally from the previous acquisition of MRP. Is it something that kicking in the quarter. And also in terms of the -- your previous target of the 20% run rate EBITDA -- EBITA margin by the end of this fiscal year. Is that still something you are looking for?
Peter Nilsson: To talk about synergies, of course. I mean we have always said on MRP that I mean some of the major impact is coming from the hydraulics fluid power segment. And as that now we see finally some improvements in that. Of course, we're getting some benefits from that into the figures. But I mean it's -- MRP is getting more into normal business for us. So it's not really synergies as such. It's more that the market segments, which was strengthened by the MRP has been very soft. And now we see these markets getting back. And then, of course, we get the benefit into the figure. But we are not at the end of that one because it still has to go up. It should still -- I don't know exactly the figures, but we are probably still some 15% or something below kind of the levels where we believe it should be in that particular segment. So that is still at a low activity and especially you're talking about the farming in U.S., you look at little bit construction equipment, which is still, especially the agriculture looks still very soft. And that, of course, we're starting -- if you talk to the new administration in the U.S., I don't know -- it's difficult to kind of guess where they're heading. But one of the areas which I have not been kind of supporting yet and which have been suffering is, of course, the farmers in U.S. So if something comes into that area, we should see even better improvements, especially in that segment. About 20% is still within reach, but I mean it's going to be tough to get there, I mean, to be very open to get to that level here already in Q4, but we are moving in the right direction. And we still see that with the reach in a not-too-distant future. But I mean I shouldn't sit here and say that we can get to 20% in Q4, because that has been -- there has been some market development. We know the tariff situation. We know the geopolitical areas and we know this kind of softness still in the construction and, let's say, still -- yes, quite some distance to go before we are back to normal, especially in this fluid power, which is once again the major segment of Sealing Solutions.
Timothy Lee: Understood. Very helpful. And my another question would be on your M&A potential. So Continental actually previously mentioned, they could probably look for the divestments of the ContiTech business. I'm not sure whether you can comment on this or whether it is something that you may see interest or if it's in your M&A portfolio?
Peter Nilsson: Yes. I mean the overall ContiTech is definitely a lot of interest for us because the majority of the ContiTech business has no -- I would say, we are in the same overall segment. But if you look at their conveyer belts or timing belts or also this what I call surface solutions. I mean it's nothing to do with that. We have some overlap in terms of nonautomotive anti-vibration and some fluid or [indiscernible], which, of course, we will be interested if we could cherry-pick, but I don't think there will be any kind of cherry-pick possibilities. So I mean, we're watching it. We're looking at it. But overall, ContiTech is a not of interest for us.
Operator: There are no more questions at this time. So I hand the conference back to the speakers for any closing comments.
Peter Nilsson: Thank you. And thanks for listening in our quarterly call. And summary of a good quarter for us, a good organic growth, good margin development and an improved demand throughout the quarter. We still note that there is still a lot of uncertainty in the, let's say, the global arena. And that is, of course, something we're watching, but we feel confident that we're going to continue to improve Trelleborg, and continue to build a better Trelleborg with ambition, of course, to deliver even better figures going forward. So thanks to all of you, and I am happy to support you in individual calls. Christofer is always available and so are Fredrik and myself, if you want any follow-up discussions or get some clarity on other issues not covered in the call. So thanks again, and see you soon and do take care.